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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:24 pm 
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Appears to have crashed short of the runway, possibly a large body of water on the horizon. Appears to be a medium sized aircraft. Doesn't look like there are any signs of scorching or explosion.

Bunker like complexes in the vicinity might suggest a military installation.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 3:28 pm 
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A Japanese Neptune, perhaps?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:30 am 
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KiwiZac wrote:
A Japanese Neptune, perhaps?


I'd agree.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:33 pm 
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Captured ?
Trees sure do not look native to south pacific, is a US Navy photo though

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:06 pm 
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Strange: looks like an LJ tail code (VP-23) and I'd stick by P2V, so maybe USN rather than JASDF/JMSDF?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:38 pm 
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If you can pick up a tail code, your eyeballs are a whole lot better than mine ... Does appear to be a possible meatball on the fuselage though, hard to tell.

Judging by the trees which appear to be pine/evergreens, almost certainly a stateside location, though the possibility exists that it was a captured IJ aircraft being test flown.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:49 pm 
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Xray wrote:
If you can pick up a tail code, your eyeballs are a whole lot better than mine ... Does appear to be a possible meatball on the fuselage though, hard to tell.

Judging by the trees which appear to be pine/evergreens, almost certainly a stateside location, though the possibility exists that it was a captured IJ aircraft being test flown.


Captured P2V?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:03 pm 
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Ok, blown up further it looks almost for sure a meatball and a tail code possibly L1, serial is too garbled to make out

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:11 pm 
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I think all Japanese Neptunes were dark sea grey, so I'd stick with a USN P-2/P2V rather than anything else.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:26 pm 
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I think you guys are right P2V, you can see where the tail cone sheered off.

Can't see what else that would be but a meatball though, right in the position it should be. On the other hand, looks like a possible US emblem on one of the wings.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:37 pm 
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Was posting this from another non aviation forum [metal detecting of all things], at that time there were few replies.

Looks like they have it solved now.


On December 3rd, 1967 a VP-23 P2V Aircraft (BUNO: 148350 - LG-4 - Crew-11) crashed in adverse weather off the end of the Otis AFB, Falmouth, Mass., runway. The crew egressed safely, but the aircraft was totally consumed by fire. SOURCE: 142 DICTIONARY OF AMERICAN NAVAL AVIATION SQUADRONS–Volume 2 (Third VP-23)



http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/ ... crash.html

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:53 pm 
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What I thought was the fuselage "meatball" may be damage.

As soon as I saw it I thought Marauder or Neptune, then Neptune simply based on the tail. Great work, guys!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:13 pm 
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True, meatball probably damage, does not look perfectly round.


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