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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:18 pm 
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Earhart Search PNG

Of course Fleet 16B follows the searches for Earhart, he's hooked on it and can't give it away. He's been posting for years about it and disparaging all in sundry who continue to search. He even probably has a theory of his own but is too shy to produce it..... Not interested and doesn't follow AE Searches ? Baloney.

Fleet16b wrote:
Sorry I don't follow ufo sightings and I don't follow the AE Search .
It so happens that I follow WIX and the AE crap keeps rearing itself , so its hard not to notice

Your ink blob in the first post looks nothing close to being an aircraft
You guys are grasping at straws
Ill be the first to say I was wrong if this latest "expedition " finds her
However I will say that looking near and around Howland is more realistic than the theories
that David Billings and TIGHAR keep pushing.


Fleet, put your sword away and just quietly follow the news about the Earhart searches....as you like to do, don't be ashamed of your interest. Oh, one request. No matter how "unrealistic" you believe the Earhart search on New Britain is....

Please do not mention me in the same sentence with TIGHAR.

Surely you know my opinion of TIGHAR by now, you've been following the posts on WIX for years.... I have been mainly self-funded, it is only recently I have been holding out a begging bowl but sadly I've not filled it yet, so please, again, do not link me with TIGHAR. Thankyou so much.

Regards to all who read and like to follow Earhart and Noonan searches, even you Fleet 16B

David Billings
www.earhartsearchpng.com


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:44 pm 
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good to know you are out there watching, david. hope all is well.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:21 pm 
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The very expensive crash and sink and Nikumaroro ideas will conclude 2017 with another fail. Tested over and over again. Time for the study of untested alternatives to begin in earnest: New Britain PNG and Orona.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:08 pm 
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Earhart Search PNG

From what TIGHAR has just posted, Mr. Gillespie is not even going to Niku this year, he is leaving it in the hands of the Betchart Cruise and the tourists and a few TIGHAR Members, scheduled for late June and into July...and they will be under the guidance of his finder of fossils, Dr. King. This will be a search of the seawater "throat" between the beach and the lagoon.

We await the result of the Eustace/Nauticos underwater search which is the most expensive of the lot in my estimation. The 2009 Ted Waitt Search reportedly cost US$9 Million and revealed one 50 gallon drum and presumably, some fish.

I will be going to East New Britain again in early June this year. I am armed a little more on this attempt with some information that came our way in 2011 and a recollection of mine from 1996. If there are those interested enough in the evidence I present in the website, now is the time to help, aid and assist.

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David Billings
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:58 pm 
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A simple symmetry study indicates this could be Amelia Earhart's plane. I selected 7 points I thought were major airframe components; nose, right engine/prop hub, tail, etc. Lines were drawn point to point and lenghts measured using the GE ruler. Similarly the same points are selected on the overhead sketch of the L10E. 7 points ( 7!=6+5+4+3+2+1=21) provide 21 lines. The 21 lines are compared to all other lines to find the corresponding ratio(s). The 21 lines permit (21!= 20+19+18+.........3+2+1= 210) two hundred and ten ( 210 ) ratio comparisons. Then the ratio(s) of the GE image are compared against the similar ratio(s) of the L10E sketch. The results generally are in agreement +/- 7%. Many are exactly the same.

For those readers who might find some merit in the possibility this could be the plane, be encouraged by the fact that a very few knowledgeable aviation persons agree ( on at least two other forums ) it could be the L10E or similar twin tailed Lockheed designed plane.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:04 pm 
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Here are the seven subjective points referenced in the symmetry study.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:26 pm 
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Just to the right of the point B in the image, one can see the blue reflection of the curving left wingtip. The reflection is created by bright sunlight streaming down and bouncing off the coral sand, up to the underside of the wing (barren of marine growth), then reflected down to the sand and back up to the camera above. The blue color is the result of the extra distance traveled in seawater and the added adsorption of reds and yellow component of sunlight.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:11 pm 
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The Nauticos expedition has ended. They didn't find the plane. I wish All that talent and all that money could be put to work on Orona. Can't be done of course. I think of how many great airplanes could be restored with the money spent?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:22 pm 
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Tom Maxwell wrote:
The Nauticos expedition has ended. They didn't find the plane. I wish All that talent and all that money could be put to work on Orona. Can't be done of course. I think of how many great airplanes could be restored with the money spent?
Clive Cussler said that more treasure has been spent trying to find sunken treasure than actual treasure found. Still, I am always curious about finds of note. Cussler always does a LOT of research before his NUMA team seeks a lost wreck. One great example of that is the ship he found under a parking lot on Galveston island. In case you haven't read up on his real life NUMA team, he's written The sea Hunters I & II. With the advances in side sonar technology, maybe Cussler can look into where Amelia's plane is and isn't.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:26 pm 
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Clive Cussler is just the sort of innovative writer/explorer fitted to actually find and document Amelia's L10E in the lagoon at Orona. Currently all exploration is blocked by the Nikumaroro research group.

The AE mystery is a complex story similar to many of Cusslers novels. But it's not fiction. Speculation follows: The capture and imprisonment of the American fliers will be documented once the aircraft wreck is investigated in-situ. The chronicles of WWII vets on Saipan and Roi-Namur, the stories of Marshellese natives, and Saipan Chamorro verbal history will someday be verified by letters and diaries of the Japanese soldiers who were station on Roi and at Saipan. Amelia was held on Roi for many years in relative comfort under IJN protection. It has been said that many dead men would be required to conceal such a secret; this is exactly the case as most of the Japanese defenders at Roi and Saipan perished in the liberation of the islands.

Many questions about Mr. Jones, the overseer at Hull remain unanswered. The AE mystery is not as simple as crash and sink.


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