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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:50 am 
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Hi all,
This is directed to aircrews that do ground support, jets or helos doesn't matter.

My question is...
What procedures/tech is in place currently to help identify friendly troops and/or vehicles from the air? Is there something like IFF?

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I was in a heavy mech brigade and the tanks had some type of IFF panel. I have no clue how they worked.
As for the rest of us, theForce XXI Battle Command Brigade and Below (FBCB2) tracker had come out soon before I left active duty and I understood that the FAC parties were to be tied into that.
That said, I had soldiers who'd been shot at in blue/blue accidents in Desert Storm) and we always had our marker panels with the vehicles where they could be reached quickly, just in case. We even did that in joint gunnery ops as well. Not that this would have helped us much in bad weather or any other conditions we encountered often.
Didn't save us from a laser designator reflecting energy off a tree (nobody could see through optics ranged for the CONEX box target) halfway to the target once for a JADAM drop once, but that's another story. :?

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p51 wrote:
I was in a heavy mech brigade and the tanks had some type of IFF panel. I have no clue how they worked.
As for the rest of us, the Force XXI Battle Command Brigade and Below (FBCB2) tracker had come out soon before I left active duty and I understood that the FAC parties were to be tied into that.
That said, I had soldiers who'd been shot at in blue/blue accidents in Desert Storm) and we always had our marker panels with the vehicles where they could be reached quickly, just in case. We even did that in joint gunnery ops as well. Not that this would have helped us much in bad weather or any other conditions we encountered often.
Didn't save us from a laser designator reflecting energy off a tree (nobody could see through optics ranged for the CONEX box target) halfway to the target once for a JADAM drop once, but that's another story. :?


Thanks! Were the panels you had just an orange panel or was there something that ID'd you?

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Scott WRG Editor wrote:
p51 wrote:
I was in a heavy mech brigade and the tanks had some type of IFF panel. I have no clue how they worked.
As for the rest of us, the Force XXI Battle Command Brigade and Below (FBCB2) tracker had come out soon before I left active duty and I understood that the FAC parties were to be tied into that.
That said, I had soldiers who'd been shot at in blue/blue accidents in Desert Storm) and we always had our marker panels with the vehicles where they could be reached quickly, just in case. We even did that in joint gunnery ops as well. Not that this would have helped us much in bad weather or any other conditions we encountered often.
Didn't save us from a laser designator reflecting energy off a tree (nobody could see through optics ranged for the CONEX box target) halfway to the target once for a JADAM drop once, but that's another story. :?


Thanks! Were the panels you had just an orange panel or was there something that ID'd you?

Sorry, just saw this. We used the standard cheap GI orange panels.
Mind you, this was pre-9/11 "budget Army," where all expenses were spared (I left active duty right before 9/11 happened). Once the FBCB2 system was in place, we were told that friendly air would also somehow be tied into it (thought the contractors could never tell us how and we were all quite skeptical about that).

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