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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:20 pm 
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Hi Michael,
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If one of you gentleman could tell me more about Hoffmen Propeller in Germany I would gtreatly appreciate it.

Check: http://www.hoffmann-prop.com

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Here is a not so good pic of the CAF P-82B. As Gary stated, it does indeed have Merlins. The props now on the airplane are fiberglass and just for display. Right hand rotation Aero Products blades are available, but the left hand rotation blades........ well, that is a different story..... Since Tom Reilly will be doing some digging for parts, maybe a box or two of blades will be uncovered....... Alan
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You know the F-82 almost looks like an air racer in that photo, with the unpainted sections and the chromate center wing. 8)


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Thank you...and I should have a few pictures next week!



Any chance (cough) that you, ummm, err, (cough) got a chance to , uhhh, (cough)...


...get some pics? :wink:


Oh yeah: Post 'em 'til it hurts.

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I'll say it....let's see some d&*% pics! :twisted: Where's the pics?!! You gotta show us something!

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I would really like to see a P-82 fly. I know you guys are going to feed me to the wolves for this idea but: what if blades were found that were suitable but never came off of a P-82 variant? A long time ago there was an article in Sport Aviation about a guy that had a 7/10th' sscale P-51 replica , polished metal and at Oshkosh. It had either a Jaguar V-12 or a Chevy V-8, don't remember. What stands out in my memory is that they took prop blades from a Merlin III Metroliner commuter propjet and cut them down to size and they looked pretty darn good . It was a four bladed prop. They mentioned the guy at the prop shop who "knew everything about every propellor ever built."
If the XP-82 is an experimental warbird that will be registered in the Experimental category, what not look for a substitute? I know there are limitations as to what the crankshaft, hub etc. will accept, but think of all the Russian , Chinese and other aircraft built that have counter rotating props. This is kind of outside the box thinking but it would save a huge amount of money and maybe once a P-82 is flying again, it might help that elusive box of NOS blades the CAF has been searching for 27 years.
Come to think of it, could you use blades from the Avro Shackleton, or Fairey Gannet?


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Oooooh, coooool............a contra-rotating P-82! :D

I know that's not what you were going after there, Marine Air, but it would sure look neat! :lol:

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Oooooh, coooool............a contra-rotating P-82! :D

I know that's not what you were going after there, Marine Air, but it would sure look neat! :lol:

Gary

isn't there a Shackleton around with engines that aren't used anymore? :P

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Hey Gary,
I believe you can do anything with sheet metal. If we find an extra set of Shackleton props and I think I can round up some old tail booms off a C-119; any chance you could build us an XF-11 like Howard Hughes crashed?

p.s. On earlier post, i meant using the blades from the counter-rotating props, only.


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Hey Gary,
I believe you can do anything with sheet metal. If we find an extra set of Shackleton props and I think I can round up some old tail booms off a C-119; any chance you could build us an XF-11 like Howard Hughes crashed?

p.s. On earlier post, i meant using the blades from the counter-rotating props, only.


Yes...Yes.........an XF-11........that would be SWEEEEET :D :wink: 8)


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I didn't see this earlier, I was at PDK working on the Liberty Belle.

Here's a couple of pictures of the major parts of the XP-82 as they came off of the truck.

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Thanks for posting, Chuck.

Significant bits, but you gents definitely have your work cut out for you.

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Dan K wrote:
Thanks for posting, Chuck.

Significant bits, but you gents definitely have your work cut out for you.


Don't look at me, this is definitely a Reilly project. Between finishing Don's P-40, the Dyke Lake B-17 and the occasional support stint on the Liberty Belle, I'm not gonna have much time left over for the XP-82.

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Hello Chuck

Any news about the Dyke Lake B-17 ? I didn't found lots of information about it on the net.

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There is another, much cheaper, answer to this problem that is almost painfully obvious. Most large twins don't have counter rotating propellers, the B-25, A-26, B-26 to name three. Admittedly not original, it would allow the CAF P-82 to fly again without the enormous expenditure of producing blades that turn the wrong way.

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