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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:18 pm 
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Looks like Fifi needs a new engine.

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Good luck to the B-24/B-29 squadron. I hope the fundraising goes well.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:57 am 
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Put 4 R-2800's in the plane and they would not have to worry about engines anymore.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:40 pm 
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Use of R-2800s was considered in the early stages of trying to resolve FIFI's engine issues. I don't know the details of why it was not done but can imagine some very major nacelle, exhaust and prop modifications that may have been a factor at that stage. Sorry I can't provide more info.

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Using R-3350s is a relatively minor mod, while the R-2800 is a major mod. The R-2800 would not be able to supply the power necessary for takeoff with the gear reduction we needed to keep the same props. The R-3350s that we have are relatively "bullet proof", meaning very reliable. I would fly behind an R-3350 before I would an R-2800 any day.


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b29flteng wrote:
Using R-3350s is a relatively minor mod, while the R-2800 is a major mod. The R-2800 would not be able to supply the power necessary for takeoff with the gear reduction we needed to keep the same props. The R-3350s that we have are relatively "bullet proof", meaning very reliable. I would fly behind an R-3350 before I would an R-2800 any day.


You guys obviously know much more than I ever will, but there is a reason that the Sanders are now offering R-2800's in their Sea Fury rebuilds, the 3350's just are not as reliable.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:31 pm 
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You guys obviously know much more than I ever will, but there is a reason that the Sanders are now offering R-2800's in their Sea Fury rebuilds, the 3350's just are not as reliable.


Fifi has the only 3350's in the world with that configuration. Making broad comments by comparing all R2800's agains all R3350's just isn't a helpful comparison. This could be a fluke failure or a problem endemic to Fifi's engines, but it'll take a much longer service history to prove the point either way.


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Tim Adams wrote:
You guys obviously know much more than I ever will, but there is a reason that the Sanders are now offering R-2800's in their Sea Fury rebuilds, the 3350's just are not as reliable.


The Sanders family will tell you they never had a lot of luck with the 3350 and that is true. But a lot of other operators have had great success with them. Howard Pardue for instance. One of the big draws to the 2800 is that they are cheaper. But you also have to remember that the first R-2800 they put on a Sea Fury had a main bearing failure right off the bat.


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The R2800 can be just as or more unreliable than the R3350. At Air Tahoma, we were sending engines for overhaul after just 150 hours (and sometimes less) because of problems in the quality of the overhaul and the fact the pilots continued to abuse the engines (using over 50" on takeoff, cruise at more than 1100HP, etc) with 100LL avgas. Once certain changes were made by the overhaul shop and the pilots finally started flying the restrictions imposed, the overhaul time went up to well over 500 hours. For aircraft flying in fairly regular service, 150 hours goes fast. Also, remember that Cavanaugh has had serious issues with the R2800 on their Corsair as well and is the main reason it's only flown once in the last couple of years.

Radial engines are complex things. There are only 2 things that you can do to try and keep them "healthy" - run them often (at least once a week) and don't work them any harder than you must. Beyond that, you're dealing with cores that are 60+ years old and parts that aren't much younger, so there are going to be mechanical issues that there's nothing you can do about.


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I'm sure everyone on WIX is a fan of FIFI. We all love to see her fly. Let's do what we can to get her back in the air where she belongs. I'm in for $100. How about you? Please give what you can. Every dollar helps.

Disclaimer: I'm not a member of the B-24/B-29 Squadron. I'm not even a CAF member. I have no connection with FIFI or the CAF. I just care.

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Thanks k5dh!


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According to Facebook Fifi is in the air with the repaired engine and heading to Addison.


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FIFI is home safe in Addison, Texas. Thanks Rick, don and the rest.


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I posted a video of Fifi leaving Midland yesterday for Addison. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOLKbvZeL1c
Great job to the B-29/B-24 squadron getting Fifi back up and flying in short order.

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Great news! It's amazing how fast the engine replacement went. It was good see her in the video back in the air!

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Nice work! Hope everything holds up in the coming year.


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