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Author:  bdk [ Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:13 am ]
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For a price equal to that of a P-51 you could burn a lot of fuel in a T-33.

P-51 @ $1.5M+ and no fuel

T-33 @ $200K

$1.5M - $200K = $1.3M of fuel
$1.3M / $4/gal = 325,000 gal
325,000 gal / 360 GPH = 903 hours

P.S. Not sure I'd want to fly in a $35K T-33....
Author:  BHawthorne [ Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:09 am ]
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bdk wrote:
For a price equal to that of a P-51 you could burn a lot of fuel in a T-33.

P-51 @ $1.5M+ and no fuel

T-33 @ $200K

$1.5M - $200K = $1.3M of fuel
$1.3M / $4/gal = 325,000 gal
325,000 gal / 360 GPH = 903 hours

P.S. Not sure I'd want to fly in a $35K T-33....


I'm not so worried about the concept of a fixer-upper T-33. The manufacturing engineer part of me would love it. I'd be trading off an extensive amount of time and labor for initial cost though. My current engineering degree is targeted at cad/cam/cnc machining in an aerospace manufacturing company. The idea of reworking the aircraft from the ground up is the type of thing I enjoy. I'm used to taking a manufacturer's technical drawing, manually building a solids model in catia, then exporting to mastercam and programming the cutting paths for 3,4,5-axis and then CNCing the part. I've also got some experience in QA and first article inspection and CMM use. Over the next few years I'm totally rebuilding the F-84F cockpit fuselage section I have. I have the manufacturer's technical drawings on microfilm. I'll know after that project if I have the time and patience to do it with a full T-33. For the foreseeable future I'm pretty well tied up with the F-84F rebuild though. I guess that wouldn't stop me if I ran across a few great T-33 deals though. :)
Author:  A2C [ Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:17 pm ]
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I'm not so worried about the concept of a fixer-upper T-33. The manufacturing engineer part of me would love it. I'd be trading off an extensive amount of time and labor for initial cost though. My current engineering degree is targeted at cad/cam/cnc machining in an aerospace manufacturing company. The idea of reworking the aircraft from the ground up is the type of thing I enjoy. I'm used to taking a manufacturer's technical drawing, manually building a solids model in catia, then exporting to mastercam and programming the cutting paths for 3,4,5-axis and then CNCing the part. I've also got some experience in QA and first article inspection and CMM use. Over the next few years I'm totally rebuilding the F-84F cockpit fuselage section I have. I have the manufacturer's technical drawings on microfilm. I'll know after that project if I have the time and patience to do it with a full T-33. For the foreseeable future I'm pretty well tied up with the F-84F rebuild though. I guess that wouldn't stop me if I ran across a few great T-33 deals though.


I'm an engineer too, and actually learned cad/cam on the job. Pretty easy after knowing how to do diff eqns, finite methods, etc.!

Anyway, seems like lots of engineers do restorations, same is true for me. Except I like WW2 planes. Less money to fly..
Author:  Ethan [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:11 pm ]
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A2C wrote:
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My pick would be a T-33, but that's not on your list.


Well, let's talk about it. I think an airworthy T-33 can be purchased for $35,000, I kid you not. So is it worth it?

A flying T-33 for $35,000 ! Where can I get one ? Because the last one I saw for sale was almost $100,000.
Author:  A2C [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:29 pm ]
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I think I saw one of the Planes of Fame ones a couple years ago, and a couple others come and go every now and then. My Grandpa flew them in the USAF, and said he much preferred the F-86.
Author:  bdk [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:54 pm ]
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A2C wrote:
I think I saw one of the Planes of Fame ones a couple years ago, and a couple others come and go every now and then. My Grandpa flew them in the USAF, and said he much preferred the F-86.

T-33 = trainer = 360 GPH
F-86 = fighter = 500+ GPH

Any contest as to which is more fun?

If POF had a flyable T-33 for $35K a few years back, I sure missed it. A friend of mine did sell a really nice Fouga about 3 years ago for $50K though.
Author:  A2C [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:54 pm ]
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I saw it, but who cares Nobody I know wants one. If some one gave me one, I'd probably donate it to a museum or have it scrapped.
Author:  BHawthorne [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:56 pm ]
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A2C wrote:
...or have it scrapped.


:shock: Given the option of scrapping give it to me :wink:
Author:  The Inspector [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:21 am ]
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I'd go a bit oddball and restore that 1920's IMAM Italian two seat Bipe found in Iraq a few years ago, no one else @ the fly-in would have one- :wink:
Author:  paul smith [ Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:46 pm ]
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IMHO,

There are lots of TBMs, There is at least one SBD flying, Mustangs are all over the place and I think there are at least 2 Yaks 3s. But a real Zeke or Ki-43 is a real rarity.
Author:  the330thbg [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:26 am ]
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A Bahka Bomb!!!!!!!!!!! Would be great for at least one amazing flight!!!!!


HAH!!!!!
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