Warbird Information Exchange

DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on this site are the responsibility of the poster and do not reflect the views of the management.
It is currently Thu May 28, 2020 2:01 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Classic Wings Magazine WWII Naval Aviation Research Pacific Luftwaffe Resource Center
When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:40 am 
Offline
BANNED/ACCOUNT SUSPENDED
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:58 am
Posts: 1054
Location: In Your Screen
Hello Folks:

Anyone know how to put drain hole fasteners in on fabric covered surfaces? Anyone have nomenclature for this?

Thanks,

_________________
"No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!" R.R.

Welcome to the USSA! One Nanny State Under the Messiah, Indivisible with Tyranny, Higher Taxes, Socialism, Radical Environmentalism and a Loss of Income for all. Boy I'm proud to be a part of the USSA, what can I do to raise taxes, oh boy oh boy!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:33 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:54 am
Posts: 920
Location: Madison, MS
Its called a grommet, and they are usually doped on to the clear coats under the pigmented coats.

_________________
If God had wanted man to fly behind a flat motor, Pratt Whitney would've built one.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:35 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:58 pm
Posts: 3282
Location: Nelson City, Texas
Glue the grommets in like DZ says. There are two types, plain round, and sea plane grommets that have a reverse scoop on them. After you complete the flying surface you burn through the fabric (If man made) with a soldering iron.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:33 pm 
Offline
BANNED/ACCOUNT SUSPENDED
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:58 am
Posts: 1054
Location: In Your Screen
Hello Folks:

That's good to know, but what's used when you want to go through 1 layer of fabric and 1 layer of sheet metal? Thanks a lot.

_________________
"No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!" R.R.

Welcome to the USSA! One Nanny State Under the Messiah, Indivisible with Tyranny, Higher Taxes, Socialism, Radical Environmentalism and a Loss of Income for all. Boy I'm proud to be a part of the USSA, what can I do to raise taxes, oh boy oh boy!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:41 pm 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:54 pm
Posts: 2587
Location: VT
A2C wrote:
Hello Folks:

That's good to know, but what's used when you want to go through 1 layer of fabric and 1 layer of sheet metal? Thanks a lot.



Drill bit, just go slow through the fabric where the gromet is.

_________________
Long Live the N3N-3 "The Last US Military Bi-Plane" 1940-1959
Badmouthing Stearmans on WIX since 2005
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:30 pm 
Offline
BANNED/ACCOUNT SUSPENDED
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:58 am
Posts: 1054
Location: In Your Screen
Hi Jeff:

No, that's not it. It's looks like a rivnut that fastens the farbic to the metal. I was just wondering it there is something else used that looks a little like a rivnut.

Thanks

_________________
"No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!" R.R.

Welcome to the USSA! One Nanny State Under the Messiah, Indivisible with Tyranny, Higher Taxes, Socialism, Radical Environmentalism and a Loss of Income for all. Boy I'm proud to be a part of the USSA, what can I do to raise taxes, oh boy oh boy!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:49 pm 
Offline
Been here a long time
Been here a long time

Joined: Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am
Posts: 10569
This is on a T-6? Do you have a photo of the area?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:34 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:58 pm
Posts: 3282
Location: Nelson City, Texas
Move the grommet away from the metal (or just glue another on)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:54 pm 
Offline
BANNED/ACCOUNT SUSPENDED
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:58 am
Posts: 1054
Location: In Your Screen
Can't be done. Basicly it's similar to a rivnut.

_________________
"No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!" R.R.

Welcome to the USSA! One Nanny State Under the Messiah, Indivisible with Tyranny, Higher Taxes, Socialism, Radical Environmentalism and a Loss of Income for all. Boy I'm proud to be a part of the USSA, what can I do to raise taxes, oh boy oh boy!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:48 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:58 pm
Posts: 3282
Location: Nelson City, Texas
On a T-6? Doesn't sound familar, like BDK says send photo and prove us wrong.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:05 am 
Offline
BANNED/ACCOUNT SUSPENDED
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:58 am
Posts: 1054
Location: In Your Screen
Sorry too lazy to take a picture..I don't want to prove anything, just needed an answer to that. I think I'll call my hardware supplier, and see if he knows.

Thanks!

_________________
"No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!" R.R.

Welcome to the USSA! One Nanny State Under the Messiah, Indivisible with Tyranny, Higher Taxes, Socialism, Radical Environmentalism and a Loss of Income for all. Boy I'm proud to be a part of the USSA, what can I do to raise taxes, oh boy oh boy!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:43 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:28 am
Posts: 355
Location: Oviedo, Florida
For the Acceptable Method, consult the AC 43.13-1B; Section 2-14 "Inspection Rings and Drain Grommets". Found on Pages 2-22 and 2-23.

If you don't have the text, it can be downloaded from the FAA website for free. If downloading just the chapter needed, it would be "Chapter Two- Fabric Covering."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:16 pm
Posts: 163
Location: Chino, CA
Also, if you are using Poly Fiber, you can use poly tack to put the grommet up and a small soldering iron to burn a hole through the fabric. If the fabric is on sheet metal, you may not even need a grommet. consult the poly-fiber book.

_________________
“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”

Benjamin Franklin, American Statesman, Scientist, Philosopher


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Drain Hole isn Fabric
PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:25 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:37 pm
Posts: 1
Location: Texas
Suggest you not use grommets. Just use soldering iron to make hole. Over time, the grommets come unstuck. Grommet are a carry over from the cotton days.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:01 pm 
Offline
BANNED/ACCOUNT SUSPENDED
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:58 am
Posts: 1054
Location: In Your Screen
I hate to say it, but all the responses miss the mark. The fabric is over metal. The metal is enclosed, and so the drain hole is similar to a rivnut and goes through the fabric and metal. All I was asking is if anyone knows excactly the type of fastener/drain reinforcement used.

_________________
"No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!" R.R.

Welcome to the USSA! One Nanny State Under the Messiah, Indivisible with Tyranny, Higher Taxes, Socialism, Radical Environmentalism and a Loss of Income for all. Boy I'm proud to be a part of the USSA, what can I do to raise taxes, oh boy oh boy!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group