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A place where restoration project-type threads can go to avoid falling off the main page in the WIX hangar. Feel free to start threads on Restoration projects and/or warbird maintenance here. Named in memoriam for Gary Austin, a good friend of the site and known as RetroAviation here. He will be sorely missed.
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Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Mon May 07, 2012 9:25 pm

N3Njeff wrote:Guess I am a bit confused that from my end, it seems that the CAF wants to forget, guess maybe their membership should go back to Page 1 of this thread.


Why must everything the CAF does or doesnt do be seen as some sort of conspiracy? I'm betting that not one single person that has posted since your message is a member of the CAF unit that owns this plane. Do any of you ever looked anywhere besides wix for news about the B-24? Lots of information about it on various CAF webpages. I'm not a member of the CAF but I at least look into the subject.

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Tue May 08, 2012 7:01 pm

bombadier29 wrote:
N3Njeff wrote:Guess I am a bit confused that from my end, it seems that the CAF wants to forget, guess maybe their membership should go back to Page 1 of this thread.


Why must everything the CAF does or doesnt do be seen as some sort of conspiracy? I'm betting that not one single person that has posted since your message is a member of the CAF unit that owns this plane. Do any of you ever looked anywhere besides wix for news about the B-24? Lots of information about it on various CAF webpages. I'm not a member of the CAF but I at least look into the subject.



Before you go preaching to what I do or others do or should do on and off WIX. Be a active member for more than what 4 months.

There are many members on WIX that like to keep updated in the warbird scene because in many ways, its the FASTEST method as MANY are active in keeping these airplanes in the air and dont have time to search the HUNDREDS of groups and individuals doing different things all over the world. So YES I only look at WIX.

For many of us, we are like Gary who this thread owes its many pages to. We work our asses off for little to no recognition to keep people flying safe every day. It has nothing to do with conspiracy..............it ALL has to do with Pride and Passion and credit put to where credit is due. If the CAF has already put his name on the side of "Lil" or ole "927" if you want to call it then I apologise as I did not see the thread where it happened. If it has not happened then its a shame...................................Im done.

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Wed May 09, 2012 7:26 am

bombadier29 wrote:I'm not a member of the CAF but I at least look into the subject.

Have you worked on Diamond Lil?
Have you had an flight aboard Diamond Lil?
Have you donated to the upkeep of Diamond Lil?
Some of us reading this thread have done 1 or 2 or maybe even all 3 (or perhaps in conjunction with other warbirds).
Perhaps pontificating to others WIXers who do more than merely "look into the subject" was not the best choice.

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Thu May 10, 2012 9:57 am

Why is the american flag backwards?

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Thu May 10, 2012 10:01 am

Easy boys...EASY.

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Thu May 10, 2012 11:07 am

peter wrote:Why is the american flag backwards?



I'm sure someone can correct me if I am wrong... but I *think* it has to do with how the flag is displayed and how it blows in the wind.

The blue field of stars is supposed to be closest to the flag pole, so when the flag blows the stripes are always pointed with the wind. The idea is that if the aircraft is flying, than the flag would be blowing in that direction...

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Thu May 10, 2012 11:13 am

peter wrote:Why is the american flag backwards?


That's how it is presented on US aircraft. The concept is that the flag is flowing back from an imaginary mast at the front, as if it were an actual flag on a ship or other vehicle, and the union (stars) is always next to the mast. There's a reg on it somewhere, but if you look at how it's displayed on US aircraft, from Air Force One on down, it's always this way. Give or take the occasional screw-up.

It is also accurate, see pic near bottom of this page:
http://flgrube1.tripod.com/id327.html

August

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Thu May 10, 2012 4:49 pm

Ok now i know :drink3:

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Thu May 17, 2012 1:23 am

If I read the flight tracking profile correctly, "LiL' is currently at Andrews AFB for the joint services open house....... Come out, see her and the crew!
alan

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Thu May 17, 2012 7:54 am

k5083 wrote:
peter wrote:Why is the american flag backwards?


That's how it is presented on US aircraft. The concept is that the flag is flowing back from an imaginary mast at the front, as if it were an actual flag on a ship or other vehicle, and the union (stars) is always next to the mast. There's a reg on it somewhere, but if you look at how it's displayed on US aircraft, from Air Force One on down, it's always this way. Give or take the occasional screw-up.

It is also accurate, see pic near bottom of this page:
http://flgrube1.tripod.com/id327.html

August

The flags worn on Army uniforms is the same way. I still have a BDU field jacket from yugoslavia like that.

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Sun May 20, 2012 6:36 am

Well done CAF on "Diamond Lil"...

She looks a beauty. How about also putting the flag on the top of the fuselage as seen in so many shots?

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Sun May 20, 2012 11:17 am

Invader26 wrote:Well done CAF on "Diamond Lil"...

She looks a beauty. How about also putting the flag on the top of the fuselage as seen in so many shots?


That is in the works, our maintenance crew just ran out of time prior to the East Coast Tour.

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Sun May 20, 2012 6:05 pm

Go for it. My father was a flight mechanic in the RAAF and used to turn-around and service Air Transport Command Libs at RAAF Base Amberley after their Trans=Pacific flight..

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:14 am

I saw on facebook that Lil' is back in Addison, TX. The temporary repairs look pretty well done, I couldnt spot any damage.

Nice job CAF crew getting her back to TX.


Now... any chance she will get back to the North East this season? :D

Re: Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:16 pm

Sorry if I'm REAL late asking this: Back in '06 when we had a fund-raiser on WIX to buy the replica .50s for Lil, I made a contribution and asked that my uncle, B-24/F-7B gunner Bernard "Bud" Seglin, be mentioned on the donor's plaque on the gun. They put my name instead; I mentioned it to Gary at the time but I didn't really want to complain because it would just seem rude... Later on, however, I heard here that some a-hole had stolen the plaque :evil: . Was it ever replaced, and if so was the name changed? Again, no ax to grind, just curious.

BTW, the pilot of Bud's plane (Hi-Priority Stuff - see avatar), Howard Levinson, is 87 now and according to my dad is still flying.
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