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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:24 am 
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The National Museum of the Air Force maintains a list of aircraft they have on loan by description, AFD-130115-047
The list is categorized by Aircraft Type, Serial Number, Organization, City, State
The list was last updated July 2013.

It is amazing how many they claim to have!. 2164 aircraft on the list!
The link for the list is here:
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-130115-047.pdf


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:29 am 
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The AmVets B-17 in Tulare, California is on the list...


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:48 pm 
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The US Army Tank Automotive Command, TACOM, also keeps a list on items loaned out. The list has 4606 items on it from Tanks to bayonets. 250 Huey's are on it and I believe I posted that list. The list can be very inaccurate, things listed that have been gone for 50 years. It seems to be pretty accurate when it comes to M60 tanks. If an American Legion or VFW was loaned a Thompson Submachine 50 years ago still has the gun, it is problematic.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:33 pm 
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TriangleP wrote:
Great find Warbirdnerd. Where did you find it?
I found it in the B-17 Section of the list. :lol:
Kudos to trojandl for finding the list and posting it. :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:46 pm 
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This could lead to hours of fun tracking down some of the display aircraft on Google Earth. I randomly picked the T-33 (51-9100) in Velva, ND and found it in a few seconds (beginner's luck!):
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:16 pm 
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Does the Navy have a similar list? We have three Navy-owned aircraft and several engines on loan to us at VFM. It'd be interesting to see their list if they have one.

Someone's gonna ask, so...
Stinson L-5 Sentinal
Piasecki CH-21B "Flying Banana"
Douglas EA-3B Skywarrior

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:42 pm 
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The NMUSAF really should be deaccessing most of these. There is really no point in the museum having more than 2 or 3 - if that many - of a type.

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TriangleP wrote:
Great find Warbirdnerd. Where did you find it?

What stands out to me is that the AMVETS B-17 is the only WWII vintage airframe owned by NMUSAF that is held by a private or non-museum entity, but it is displayed publicly. Not necessarily bad, but a case could be made they lack the resources to properly maintain it, care for its safety or repair. That might constitute a breach of the contract.

A motivated individual or group properly backed could invoke public trust issues to drag the spotlight onto the neglected or damaged aircraft on this list, including the Tulare B-17.


What about this B-29.

B‐29A, 42‐93967 AMERICAN LEGION POST 38 CORDELE GA


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:39 pm 
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B-29 Super Fort wrote:

What about this B-29.

B‐29A, 42‐93967 AMERICAN LEGION POST 38 CORDELE GA


Can't see any aircraft at all on Google Earth at that location (or anywhere else in town, for that matter, and no B-29 at the airport north of town). Maybe it was allocated and never delivered? Or taken back at some point? The American Legion Post is in the heart of town on a small street, and all adjoining land is developed. May never have been there at all.

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K5DH wrote:
B-29 Super Fort wrote:

What about this B-29.

B‐29A, 42‐93967 AMERICAN LEGION POST 38 CORDELE GA


Can't see any aircraft at all on Google Earth at that location (or anywhere else in town, for that matter, and no B-29 at the airport north of town). Maybe it was allocated and never delivered? Or taken back at some point? The American Legion Post is in the heart of town on a small street, and all adjoining land is developed. May never have been there at all.[/quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:56 pm 
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Most of what the Navy has is on loan to the Davey Jones International Navy Museum. :)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:23 am 
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What about this B-29.
B‐29A, 42‐93967 AMERICAN LEGION POST 38 CORDELE GA

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I remember a letter posted in Air Classics complaining these aircraft were in bad condition... in 1974. At least they're still around.

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F‐100A, 53‐1533, Melrose, NM:
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This one was tougher - the camouflage scheme really works! :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:21 pm 
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Chris Brame wrote:
F‐100A, 53‐1533, Melrose, NM:
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This one was tougher - the camouflage scheme really works! :lol:



I used a list I got from the NMUSAF and Google to find that very airplane!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:51 pm 
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Great work finding that F-100
Now only 2163 more to go visit from the list!


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