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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:38 pm 
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Hi all,
Thanks to books, magazines and the internet this Millennial has learned there have been two (or more!) seat conversions of Corsairs, Hellcats, Wildcats and Lightnings to name but a few over the years. But has anyone ever converted an F8F to have a jump seat?

Just an idle thought I've had from time to time.

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Yes, Gulfhawk IV had a jump seat when Elmer Ward owned it.

One of the pics on this Facebook page shows 2 guys in it.

https://www.facebook.com/MustangDaysNut ... 594766955/

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John Herlihy owned Bearcat 98 for a while in the late 1970s. He had a back seat for a while, but was apparently unhappy with the lack of rollover structure.

It looked tight...


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Back in the late '70s/early '80s, John Herlihy had a Bearcat and a Mustang "This Is It". We asked him about the Mustang after he sold it and he said 'I had the Mustang so I could bring my wife when she wanted to come along to a show. After I put the back seat in the Bearcat I didn't need the Mustang'.

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That must be the one that Stephen Grey had a ride in before he bought his first Bearcat. I remember him telling me that, with the structure behind the pilot’s seat gone, the tail used to twist in flight :shock:


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Did Bu95356 have a spot for a passenger in the fuselage ala the Foote Wildcat at one point? I seem to recall a side window in an old photo...


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The Wildcat owned by the Collings Foundation, Bu86680, has seating for 4 in the fuselage. Had seen it if I remember correctly at Thunder over Michigan. Or it could have been the Reading Penn. WW2 weekend.


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Thank you folks, asked and answered! Just one of those things that came to mind suddenly.

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Warbirdnerd wrote:
Did Bu95356 have a spot for a passenger in the fuselage ala the Foote Wildcat at one point? I seem to recall a side window in an old photo...

Bob Kucera had a Bearcat N212KA with two rear facing internal seats back in the late '60s.

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Lon Moer wrote:
Warbirdnerd wrote:
Did Bu95356 have a spot for a passenger in the fuselage ala the Foote Wildcat at one point? I seem to recall a side window in an old photo...

Bob Kucera had a Bearcat N212KA with two rear facing internal seats back in the late '60s.

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That's the paint scheme I remember. Oddly neither N212KA nor Bob Kucera are listed in Goodall's Warbird Directory.


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Rear facing seats ... :? ... wouldn't that make you puke like a sick bear ... :o ... or cat?


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Mike wrote:
That must be the one that Stephen Grey had a ride in before he bought his first Bearcat. I remember him telling me that, with the structure behind the pilot’s seat gone, the tail used to twist in flight :shock:
Probably always did just now observation is possible!


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Lon Moer wrote:
Warbirdnerd wrote:
Did Bu95356 have a spot for a passenger in the fuselage ala the Foote Wildcat at one point? I seem to recall a side window in an old photo...

Bob Kucera had a Bearcat N212KA with two rear facing internal seats back in the late '60s.


N212KA was complete with a side door as well as window ... Seen at Reno'68

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That's cool. Wow!
Warbirdnerd wrote:
Oddly neither N212KA nor Bob Kucera are listed in Goodall's Warbird Directory.

I've just sent Geoff an email about that oversight. Good news is she's in Aerial Visuals' database.

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Rear facing seats ... :? ... wouldn't that make you puke like a sick bear ... :o ... or cat?



Some people get motion sickness easier than others. Riding backwards doesn't bother some people. I'm one of them.


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