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 Post subject: Re: Top Gun - Maverick
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Saville wrote:
Blah blah bah...


I didn't say anything about "top aviation movies". That was you. I have an opinion, there are no right or wrong opinions, there are ones you agree with, & ones you don't agree with.
Grow TF up.

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Neal Nurmi wrote:
Now this is one of the sillier disputes I've seen here lately. I think both of you should go stand in a corner and think about ways not to waste bandwidth on nonsense like this...

No kidding, It's just an opinion FFS.

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Wow. Nine pages discussing which chewing gum is best.


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quemerford wrote:
Wow. Nine pages discussing which chewing gum is best.


I don't think all 9 pages were bad. There are some interesting viewpoints on hollywood aviation movies.


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Wow. Nine pages discussing which chewing gum is best.

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quemerford wrote:
Wow. Nine pages discussing which chewing gum is best.


Well, many people really really like movies (I'm one of them).

And many people love aviation and especially warbirds.

So for those of us who like both, this is an interesting and worthwhile topic.

It won't interest everyone of course - no topic does.

But if one isn't interested in it, one can just not read it.


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I for one enjoyed the movie. It far exceeded my low expectations. I do expect aviation movies to be rather hokey. The best part is that my family enjoyed it. The star power of Tom Cruz drew them into the theater and there was enough of a balance to the story (non-technical stuff/storyline) that my wife enjoyed it. She was especially impressed that Tom Cruz could fly a Mustang and even got to see that exact Mustang at POF a few weekends later. Of course I could just sit and watch a bunch of airplanes flying around and have a good time. I can't get my family interested in airplanes (and I've owned a few) so that was a big win.


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I for one enjoyed the movie. It far exceeded my low expectations. I do expect aviation movies to be rather hokey. The best part is that my family enjoyed it.
I could say the exactly same thing. My wife liked the original movie even though she's no fan of Cruise for his 'interesting' off-camera activities, but she likes the movies he puts out for the most part.

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I for one enjoyed the movie. It far exceeded my low expectations. I do expect aviation movies to be rather hokey. The best part is that my family enjoyed it. The star power of Tom Cruz drew them into the theater and there was enough of a balance to the story (non-technical stuff/storyline) that my wife enjoyed it. She was especially impressed that Tom Cruz could fly a Mustang and even got to see that exact Mustang at POF a few weekends later. Of course I could just sit and watch a bunch of airplanes flying around and have a good time. I can't get my family interested in airplanes (and I've owned a few) so that was a big win.


The thing that makes me wince during aviation movies is when they force a term or phrase into the dialogue in a horrible, non-applicable way. I call it the "Military Compact Syndrome" because the worst case I can think of was in the movie, The Right Stuff.

In the book (fabulous book - very well written and funny and informative) Wolfe described the military compact between the Military and the people in the military. For putting your life on the line there were certain goodies to be had in return.

It was woven into the book perfectly.

In the movie, the term was used in the most awful possible way where Mrs. Grissom is complaining that they aren't getting the star treatment, after Gus Grissom's flight, that they were supposed to get.

She yells, "What about the MILITARY COMPACT?"

It wasn't a term anyone used. No one would speak like that. I winced strongly.

In TG:M, I winced a bit when Cruise said, "That's the coffin corner.".

Now that is a phrase people use. But at the time he used it, it didn't quite seem to fit and it felt like they were looking for a way to include the term just for coolness sake.


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