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One of the best recoveries in years - great recoveries - great photos and then Nothing- does anybody know what is to happen now I have heard and seen nothing

Any updates anybody

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Yep... next 'Classic Wings' is out in about three weeks ;-)

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Hi Dave

You big Kiwi tease.......... Just because you work there you think you have to keep the secrets!!!!!

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Well...yes and no, some of the answers are on the Net already... and some of them are not allowed to be printed either...so it can be a bit frustrating in that way :roll:

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Hi Dave

Understand - just that I thought this was one of the best "jobs" I had seen done in a long time.

I am a bit worried that they intend to partially part out the He111 as I think it is a bit of a time capsule and it would be a real shame if it wasn't kept together.

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It is a moot point anyway, the Heinkel was stripped by the Germans before it sank, the only airframe structure the Norwegians were after were undercarriage gear doors..not sure if they were recovered or not.
The interior will basically have to come from stocks that both the Gardermoen and Berlin Museums have in store.
Seems the aircraft was quite war weary even by April 1940, with parts of different aircraft incorporated, plus evidence of earlier markings and battle repairs...so possibly a veteran of the Polih campaign as well.

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Should read 'Polish Campaign' :oops:

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Hi Dave

Thanks
I think this saves my concern a bit but it certainly sounds more and more historic so I hope it gets the attention it deserves - great find anyway.

Pity more parts weren't saved from all the Spanish stuff that was scrapped after the BoB movie........

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Go here we have some posts about them ...

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Second fuselage of the Ju 88 was raised. This is complete from the tail up to the bomb bay. Code 4D= ??. Also the propellers, 2 Jumo engines and the DB 601 engine for the He 111.
All done in the nick of time, as the Trondheim authorities allowed a window of two weeks for the recoveries.

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Awesome Dave, thanks for the update. I am really glad to hear that they were able to get everything recovered in time. This is great news.

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Hi Dave

Hate to be a pain but are there any pics of the new stuff anywhere?

Also when you say the fuselage from the tail does that mean it includes the tail group and is there much damage..

It's just that I am very interested in this stuff and I hope it all goes to a good purpose..
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I haven't seen any pics yet..but it only just happened , and should be bought ashore today. Rear fuselage includes tail group so I am told, and is in excellent condition, up to where it finishes at the bomb bay. Not sure what happened to the front of the aircraft !
Code should read 4D + ?? [ last two not known to me as yet ]

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Hi Dave - Brillant news - as you know there are a few forward fuselages kicking around as well as other parts , wings etc so I am sure something will come of all this - just hope it goes somewhere good (Like Aus or NZ - Unlikely but we can dream!)

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The Norwegians have at least 40 Ju 88 wrecks ( in various condition) on file, these are the ones above water, condition of the metal in the wrecks is just amazing, as if they were lost yesterday. The Bodo Museum has been on expedition earlier this year to scavenge bits and pieces in order to complete their D-1 when it arrives back from external restoration in Hungary....great to have a large cache of spare parts in the 'back yard', but often takes some effort and a helicopter to retrieve them..... doesn't phase our Viking friends though :!:

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