Curtiss AT-9 Jeep

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:29 pm

tulsaboy wrote:

H Does anyone know if there are any other crashed remnants out there, or potential airframes? S Anyone?

kevin

I looking into one now, I'm not sure what might be left but it is worth a try! I have the report and a got idea where to start. I just need some time to do more research and then get into the woods to start the search.

Tim

jamesintucson · **Joined:** Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:42 am **Posts:** 546

hercules130 wrote:

Mack as the AT-9 at PASM is called is what remains of a wartime crash in the Mountains north of Tucson, do not know and could not find anything more out in my 3.5 years at the place. It was hauled down for scrap as were many wrecks in the 50-60's. Not sure what will happen with her but Pima is really steping up it's restoration efforts the last few years. Such a beautiful bird.

The one we have at Pima is the one that was recovered from the mountains in New Mexico. It crashed while searching for a PT-17 that had disappeared the day before. They flew down a box canyon and couldn't get back out. Both crew walked out with relatively minor injuries.

http://www.pimaair.org/collection-detail.php?cid=70

All I know about the AT-9 parts scrapped at the NMUSAF is what I was told when I asked my former boss years ago. After the Air Force finished their restoration Pima asked for whatever remains they had and they were told that the left overs had been scrapped. There was no indication of what those remains were or if they would have even been of use. If the people at Dayton say it was all just junk then I have no reason not to believe them.

There are currently no plans to restore the AT-9.

James

EDowning · **Posted:** Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:13 am

Jamesintucson wrote:

Quote:

There are currently no plans to restore the AT-9.

Would the museum consider selling it?

jamesintucson · **Joined:** Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:42 am **Posts:** 546

EDowning wrote:

Jamesintucson wrote:

Quote:

There are currently no plans to restore the AT-9.

Would the museum consider selling it?

Probably not. Generally we don't sell aircraft that aren't duplicates of something else in our collection.

It's not that we never intend to restore it but right now to get it into the major restoration schedule we'd have to bump something else, like; the combat veteran razorback P-47, the combat veteran A-20, the combat veteran P-39, the two combat veteran P-40s, the combat veteran IL-2, the Korean combat veteran F-86E, the B-26, or the SBD, etc. etc. We have to evaluate what gives us the most bang for the buck in terms of historical importance and visitor appeal. Unfortunately the AT-9 loses on both counts. I've long wanted to use the Jeep as is in an exhibit about the dangers of training but there is a distinct lack of space for it right now.

James

hercules130 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:04 am

James,

Thanks for setting the location of AT-9 wreck recovery straight. Has the Il-2 made much progress in the last view years?

jamesintucson · **Joined:** Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:42 am **Posts:** 546

hercules130 wrote:

James,

Thanks for setting the location of AT-9 wreck recovery straight. Has the Il-2 made much progress in the last view years?

Not much progress on the Shturmovik. We're still working on getting the information we need for the rear fuselage and outer wings.

James

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:21 pm

I have got to get out to check out this museum, you guys are doing some amazing work.

hercules130 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:01 am

Steve Nelson,

I sent a PM your way but it still shows in my outbox, and not my sent box did you get my response?

All,

Sorry for taking up board space for a PM, technical issues (ie Operator error)

Steve Nelson · **Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:43 pm

I just checked. I got your message..tiwce!

SN

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:49 pm

jamesintucson wrote:

EDowning wrote:

Jamesintucson wrote:

Quote:

There are currently no plans to restore the AT-9.

Would the museum consider selling it?

Probably not. Generally we don't sell aircraft that aren't duplicates of something else in our collection.

It's not that we never intend to restore it but right now to get it into the major restoration schedule we'd have to bump something else, like; the combat veteran razorback P-47, the combat veteran A-20, the combat veteran P-39, the two combat veteran P-40s, the combat veteran IL-2, the Korean combat veteran F-86E, the B-26, or the SBD, etc. etc. We have to evaluate what gives us the most bang for the buck in terms of historical importance and visitor appeal. Unfortunately the AT-9 loses on both counts. I've long wanted to use the Jeep as is in an exhibit about the dangers of training but there is a distinct lack of space for it right now.

James

All the more for someone like Eric to acquire this beat up little bug!

tulsaboy · **Posted:** Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:30 pm

Found this photo in the back of a "Wings Aloft", which was the Lubbock Army Flying School's class yearbook, for the class 43-E. More Curtiss Jeeps. Thought I'd stumbled across a photo of Pima's bird, but on closer exam the s/n for the aircraft seem to be, from front to back:

42-56890
42-56966
42-56862 (thought this was it, off by one digit)
42-56894 (?)
illegible
illegible

Sorry for the poor quality, but it's what was in the yearbook. Thought it was neat, nevertheless, as it showcases an often overlooked bird.

Eric D.- still waiting for you to get one!

kevin

hang the expense · **Posted:** Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:07 pm

Steve Nelson wrote:

Here are a few pics I snapped of the AT-9 at Pima back in '04. I don't know if any work has been done on her yet, but judging by their past efforts, there's more than enough there to make a complete aircraft.Holy cow,what a builder.I have started with a hellova lot less with P-40s.Man that would be sweet.Make em a deal that you rebuild it to static and you get to copy everything in it.Both parties make out on the deal.

SN

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11280

jamesintucson wrote:

EDowning wrote:

Jamesintucson wrote:

Quote:

There are currently no plans to restore the AT-9.

Would the museum consider selling it?

Probably not. Generally we don't sell aircraft that aren't duplicates of something else in our collection.

May I respectfully request vigorous arm twisting?

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

bdk wrote:

jamesintucson wrote:

EDowning wrote:

Jamesintucson wrote:

Quote:

There are currently no plans to restore the AT-9.

Would the museum consider selling it?

Probably not. Generally we don't sell aircraft that aren't duplicates of something else in our collection.

May I respectfully request vigorous arm twisting?

I'll bet they would take a flying Skyraider in exchange!

marine air · **Posted:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:20 am

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