Help Get POF B-17 "Piccadilly Lilly" into the air

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11281

Running WIX total: $50

Donors:

bdk

http://s452.photobucket.com/albums/qq247/pofvolunteerweb/B-17/?start=all

We had a few folks pledge donations in the following thread:

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31181

I just wanted to provide a copy of the receipt (trust but verify) for the $50 cash donation I made yesterday in the Planes of Fame gift shop and I encourage those that made pledges to also do so. You can see that it clearly shows that it is for the B-17 fund and I can assure you that this money is accounted for separately.

Let's put our money where our typing fingers are and show our support for this worthy cause!

Planes of Fame
7000 Merrill Ave # 17
Chino, CA 91710
(909) 597-3722
http://www.planesoffame.org/contactus.php (Contact Info)
http://www.planesoffame.org/membership.php (Online Membership- http://shop.planesoffame.org/category.sc?categoryId=2)
http://shop.planesoffame.org/main.sc (Online Gift Shop)

retroaviation · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:26 pm

No money to spare at the moment, Brandon, but I'll be pitching in when able.

Do they need any windshields? I have three of 'em.

Gary

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11281

retroaviation wrote:

No money to spare at the moment, Brandon, but I'll be pitching in when able.

Do they need any windshields? I have three of 'em.

Gary

I'll find out. Parts will get you on the list too! Are these glass or plastic, and what condition are they in (NOS, used airworthy, etc.). I'm sure the museum would take them, even if they didn't need them.

VCS1 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:10 pm

Hello BDK,
I was just at the POF, Chino and I have to agree they have some very exciting projects going on. My overtime was cut at my day job (probably like so many on the WIX in the aviation industry), so I was not able to make the donation to the Seversky AT-12 like I promised you. However I too would like to make a small donation to the B-17 (my grandfather was an 8th AF, B-17F gunner). How do I contribute at the POF gift shop?

K5DH · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:31 pm

Is there a Piccadily Lily jacket patch available? I didn't see one listed in the gift shop inventory. I'll make a $100 donation in exchange for one!

Cheers,

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11281

VCS1 wrote:

How do I contribute at the POF gift shop?

Just tell them you want to donate to the B-17 and they will give you a receipt just like mine. And they certainly do take credit cards!

For as often as you go you should become a member. :wink:

That will get you in free anytime, including for the monthly events where you can win an aircraft ride in the member raffle.

k5dh wrote:

Is there a Piccadily Lily jacket patch available? I didn't see one listed in the gift shop inventory. I'll make a $100 donation in exchange for one!

Cheers,

I'm checking!

retroaviation · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:37 am

bdk wrote:

retroaviation wrote:

No money to spare at the moment, Brandon, but I'll be pitching in when able.

Do they need any windshields? I have three of 'em.

Gary

I'll find out. Parts will get you on the list too! Are these glass or plastic, and what condition are they in (NOS, used airworthy, etc.). I'm sure the museum would take them, even if they didn't need them.

Here's a picture of the fronts and backs of them, Brandon. They're all glass and are kind of foggy, but I think they might be able to be cleaned up better.

Gary

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:44 am

Being that PL is in better shape than the Liberty Belle II at Grissom, do you think that anything that is being replaced by the POF can be checked out by the folks at Grissom to see if they could use it?

retroaviation · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:30 am

mustangdriver wrote:

Being that PL is in better shape than the Liberty Belle II at Grissom, do you think that anything that is being replaced by the POF can be checked out by the folks at Grissom to see if they could use it?

Okay, I clearly have no say in what the POF folks do, but it's my OPINION that since the NMUSAF will NOT do any trading of parts to keep other airplanes either flying, or static, (and yes, I have personal experiences with this issue), then I say let 'em find their own parts to get Liberty Belle II looking better. I guarantee you that's what the NMUSAF would tell the POF if the tables were turned. And NO, this is not to "bash" the NMUSAF, but it's purely my opinion, based on real world experiences.

Gary

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11281

k5dh wrote:

Is there a Piccadily Lily jacket patch available? I didn't see one listed in the gift shop inventory. I'll make a $100 donation in exchange for one!

Cheers,

Sorry, no patch. It is unfortunate though that you might make that a condition of support for this worthwhile project. I wasn't even aware of the thank-you gifts when I made my donation since I really wasn't expecting anything in return other than to see progress on the restoration.

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There are different B-17 support levels and thank-you gifts ranging from $20 to $25,000. The $20 donor gets a bumper sticker, the $50 gets a lapel pin, certificate of appreciation and a bumper sticker, the $100 gets the above plus a years membership, $500 gets a signed B-17 print, two-year membership and the other things, $1000 gets a framed B-17 artifact (don't know what) and the above items, $2,000 gets your name inside the B-17 and all of the above, $5,000 gets a flight in a P-51, a 5-year membership and all of the above, $10,000 gets B-25 flight for 5 people, 1 lifetime membership, 4 one-year memberships and all of the above, $20,000 gets you a flight in a B-17 for 6 people, your name on the outside of the B-17 and all of the above.

Maverick · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:01 pm

Champaign Lady being restored at Urbana, Ohio needs a pair of windshields and would appreciate any donation. They can be contacted at b17project.com.[/url]

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:37 pm

retroaviation wrote:

mustangdriver wrote:

Being that PL is in better shape than the Liberty Belle II at Grissom, do you think that anything that is being replaced by the POF can be checked out by the folks at Grissom to see if they could use it?

Okay, I clearly have no say in what the POF folks do, but it's my OPINION that since the NMUSAF will NOT do any trading of parts to keep other airplanes either flying, or static, (and yes, I have personal experiences with this issue), then I say let 'em find their own parts to get Liberty Belle II looking better. I guarantee you that's what the NMUSAF would tell the POF if the tables were turned. And NO, this is not to "bash" the NMUSAF, but it's purely my opinion, based on real world experiences.

Gary

Grissom is not an air force base museum. They are on their own.

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:38 pm

retroaviation wrote:

mustangdriver wrote:

Being that PL is in better shape than the Liberty Belle II at Grissom, do you think that anything that is being replaced by the POF can be checked out by the folks at Grissom to see if they could use it?

Okay, I clearly have no say in what the POF folks do, but it's my OPINION that since the NMUSAF will NOT do any trading of parts to keep other airplanes either flying, or static, (and yes, I have personal experiences with this issue), then I say let 'em find their own parts to get Liberty Belle II looking better. I guarantee you that's what the NMUSAF would tell the POF if the tables were turned. And NO, this is not to "bash" the NMUSAF, but it's purely my opinion, based on real world experiences.

Gary

Gary, the NMUSAF has done alot of trading of parts to give to flying warbirds. Just not those of certain organizations.

retroaviation · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:06 pm

Like I said Chris, I am only speaking of my personal experiences. I cannot speak for others who may have had better luck. And my apologies if the Grissom B-17 doesn't belong to the NMUSAF. I just assumed it was, but apparently I was wrong.

Gary

noizeedave · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:45 pm

Sorry are these windows REALLY hard to get ahold of? If so, does anyone have the blueprints or examples that arent warped or damaged to mold? I know a very top of the line aircraft glass manufacturer that might make some if there is enough info to make them and the need.....

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