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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:57 pm 
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This really brings home the massive effort to get three airborne divisions on the ground on DDay, as well as the huge supply effort that went into keeping our armies fed. The supply drops into Bastogne were few and far between, and you can bet everybody was hustling to get to those that got through! Wonder what the story is with that chewed up bird? Looks like a prop ate it.

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"Good stuff again - I'd like to know more about the postwar shots of the glider (CG-15? And why the long pod atop its cabin?) being towed right on the C-47's tail,"

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The long pod atop the G-15A is/was a gasoline fueled heater.
The glider is #45-5276 which was the first CG-15A production article built by WACO. the glider is on display in the 82nd A/B museum on Ft Bragg; cargo section and cockpit only sans wings and tail. Some of the instrumentation used in the rigid tow test are still inside the glider.

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Mark Allen M wrote:
Hello Patrick, glad you see some photos not seen before. Here's what looks to be a '9X' towing a glider. Could this be the one your looking for?
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I cann't answer without seeing the serial number or the nickname.. 9X was the code squadron and they were more than 20 planes in each squadron

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Mark Allen M wrote:
Part 2 of 6

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I'm guessing this is a leaflet drop. Vietnam maybe?

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What's the airplane on top?

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What happened to this guy? :? It almost looks like overpressurization. (Not that it is.) Whatever it was, it likely happened on the port side seeing as all the damage is directed to the right.

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C-47 dropping supplies during the Burma campaign in 1944

I wonder if there's Spits in there? :lol:

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PQ-14B - see my post on page 1. Be nice if the folks at the EAA Museum would redo it in these markings; maybe even fab up the wingtip connector if it's not too complicated.

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patelie wrote:
Mark Allen M wrote:
Hello Patrick, glad you see some photos not seen before. Here's what looks to be a '9X' towing a glider. Could this be the one your looking for?
Hello Mark
I cann't answer without seeing the serial number or the nickname.. 9X was the code squadron and they were more than 20 planes in each squadron


Yah! Patrick, I didn't think that image would help too much, sorry about that, I'll keep an eye out though.

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I don't think my friend Hans would object to my posting a link to his story of one of the birds in this thread--42-92717--8Y-S--"Stoy Hora".


http://www.airbornetroopcarrier.com/sto ... gdday.html


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Great story indeed :D thanks a bunch.

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Hi
Aboard the Stoy Hora was also the War correspondent Ward Smith from the BBC. He made the trip to Normandy and back and wrote an article.
http://www.6juin1944.com/veterans/wardsmith.php

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Hi
Here are some informations about planes in your pictures and their role on D-day

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C-47 #42-100932 "Cock of the Walk" - 98th TCS - 440th TCG
On D-day she was CN #37 in serial #16 - Pilot : Maj. Bascome L. Neal

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C-47 #42-92914 "American Beauty" - 95th TCS - 440th TCG
On D-day she was CN #90 in serial #15 - Pilot : 1st Lt. Jay L. Solomon

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C-47 #42-100862 "Ain't Missbehavin" - 94th TCS - 439th TCG
On D-day she was CN #74 in serial #12 - Pilot : 1st Lt. Ernest Turner
Shot down and crash landed on LZ during bastogne mission on 27 december 1944

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(Left) C-47 #42-100908 "Marion" - 95th TCS - 440th TCG
On D-day she was CN #16 in serial #16 - Pilot : 1st Lt. Donald M. Orcutt

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C-47 #42-100921 "Captain Jack" - 97th TCS - 440th TCG
On D-day she was CN #28 in serial #16 - Pilot : Maj. Jack S. Southard

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C-47 #42-92717 "Stoy Hora" - 98th TCS - 440th TCG
On D-day she was CN #1 in serial #16 - Pilot : Lt. Col. Frank X. Krebs

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C-47 #43-15159 "The Argonia" - 94th TCS - 439th TCG
On D-day she was CN #1 in serial #11 - Pilot : Lt. Col. Charles H. Young

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C-47 #42-100919 "Toni" - 96th TCS - 440th TCG
On D-day she was CN #20 in serial #16 - Pilot : 1st Lt. James R. Roberson

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C-47 #43-15087 "Lady Lillian" - 95th TCS - 440th TCG
On D-day she was CN #2 in serial #16 - Pilot : Maj. Bridgman, Chester C. Jr.

For more information about the D-day formations check :
http://www.6juin1944.com/assaut/aeropus ... mation.php

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Chris Brame wrote:
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PQ-14B - see my post on page 1.

When I read that post I started for a standard looking Waco type glider - not a small fighter-sized airplane. I must have looked at that picture 5 or 6 times, and it wasn't until I read your post above that I realized the aircraft in it was beside the C-47 and not above it. :roll: Thanks for setting me straight.

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Just thought I'd post this one of N85SA while sitting along st. rt. 53 in Fremont Ohio. I've done some work on this one a few years ago. Now the owners are planning on restoring her to her former glory. This one dropped troops in Normandy on D-Day. When I worked on it they wanted to set it up as a roadside restaurant, I practically begged and pleaded for them not to. Glad to see it worked! :lol:

Sorry the picture is not the greatest and ever since this photo I've made sure the "real" camera was in the truck!

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I am not sure if anyone can help me here. Doing some research for family history. "Captain Jack" Jack Slocum Southard pictured in this thread, was my husband's grandfather. I am having a hard time finding information on him. Were these pics taken from another reference or did one of you know him? Also I have a photo of him in uniform with 7 point stars and I cannot find what this means.
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Jack S. Southard was the Commanding Officer of the 97th Troop Carrier Squadron - 440th Troop Carrier Group during WWII. If you don't have it I can suggest you this excellent book about the History of the 440th TCG
http://digicom.bpl.lib.me.us/ww_reg_his/137/

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I have a pic of him working with pararacks unerneath a C-47. No clue (yet) how to post it here.
And...need to find it first :) but sure it is there.

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