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 Post subject: P-43's & B-18's ...
PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:19 pm 
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Any good quality photos on the Republic P-43 Lancer are hard to come by but here ya go. You guys sure your not getting burned out on these old airplane threads? Pheww!! I am :wink:
I'll post the best quality I have.
Source, me and many from good ole Duggy at Axis & Allied paintworks.

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Derelict P-43

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Republic 073 YP-43 Farmingdale field

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Early P-43

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P-43 41-31449

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Wargames P-43

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P-43 with engine off

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P-43 in China gun sight configuring

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Republic P-43 To Be Used As A Reconnaissance Plane China 15 September 1942

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P-43A-1 Lancer A56-61 APU Laverton

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Drool, drool, drool... I think that derelict second one is 40-2894 at Chino. William Larkins took a photo of it as well, if you can find it to compare the two.

Thanks again Mark! How about a couple pages of hi-res B-18 Bolos before you ride off into the sunset? 8)

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Chris Brame wrote:
William Larkins took a photo of it as well, if you can find it to compare the two.

I would bet it's the same photo. It looks like a B Larkin photo. He's taken some great photos over the years of a lot of good stuff.

B-18's? sorry all I got are these junky photos :wink:

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Same plane but different photo - starboard side view showing "02894" in faded yellow on the vertical and the star-and-bar painted over.

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OH GOD YES MORE MORE MORE

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Stop it!!!!!!! :ouch: lol

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Douglas B-18A on Jan. 4, 1939. (U.S. Air Force photo)

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Douglas B-18A on Jan. 4, 1939. (U.S. Air Force photo)

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Douglas B-18A on Jan. 4, 1939. (U.S. Air Force photo)

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Douglas B-18B (SN 37-530, originally a B-18A) with the MAD tail boom. (U.S. Air Force photo)

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B-18s of the 19th Bomb Group 32nd Bomb Squadron on Sept 18 1938

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Douglas B-18A formation over Miami, Fla., on Army Day, April 6, 1940. (U.S. Air Force photo)

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I recall seeing pictures of B-18s (or maybe B-10s) dropping relief supplies to people stranded by the terrible floods of 1936 in the mid-Atlantic area.

The B-18's role in history is a cautionary tale of the dangers of procuring a fiscally expedient weapons system versus purchasing a better, but more expensive, weapons system. Had the Air Corps purchased B-17s as it wanted, instead of the B-18s the GHQ foisted upon it, we may have been in a bit better position to "hit back" once we were drawn into the war. Granted the early model B-17s were obsolete, but at least they weren't as useless as the B-18 in an offensive role. The B-18 did fine as an anti-sub plane in the early days of the war, but that was about it.


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SaxMan wrote:
I recall seeing pictures of B-18s (or maybe B-10s) dropping relief supplies to people stranded by the terrible floods of 1936 in the mid-Atlantic area.

The B-18's role in history is a cautionary tale of the dangers of procuring a fiscally expedient weapons system versus purchasing a better, but more expensive, weapons system. Had the Air Corps purchased B-17s as it wanted, instead of the B-18s the GHQ foisted upon it, we may have been in a bit better position to "hit back" once we were drawn into the war. Granted the early model B-17s were obsolete, but at least they weren't as useless as the B-18 in an offensive role. The B-18 did fine as an anti-sub plane in the early days of the war, but that was about it.

It was also a classic case of 'How many can I get for a buck?' each B-17 cost around the price of three BOLOS and the WD/Army was still playing the post Depression bagpipe solo on a cheapskate budget and looking more for quantity and visual impact "25 B-18's in formation is more impressive on the newsreels than 6 B-17's are" eyewash-
I think they were B-10's in the flood relief photos.

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Junky photos... :shock: Really Mark? :shock: ....Really? :shock: Please, let me give preponderance to such a statement geek ......Preservation of photos of our aviation history :D , if the photograph survives, one can hard classify the stuff you post as "Junky". Post on man, post on pop2 .

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gary1954 wrote:
Post on man, post on

I'll "post on" until I either get Bored (sometimes), Burned out (close) , Banned (again) ... or someone pisses me off (causing me to get banning ... again!) lol

Until then sorry you're stuck with me for a little while longer. Just don't rat me out to my sister, she thinks I've lost my mind a long time ago by still playing around here. (which I think she's right!) :wink:

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Mark Allen M wrote:
gary1954 wrote:
Post on man, post on

I'll "post on" until I either get Bored (sometimes), Burned out (close) , Banned (again) ... or someone pisses me off (causing me to get banning ... again!) lol

Until then sorry you're stuck with me for a little while longer. Just don't rat me out to my sister, she thinks I've lost my mind a long time ago by still playing around here. (which I think she's right!) :wink:


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Mark Allen M wrote:
Stop it!!!!!!! :ouch: lol

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Douglas B-18A on Jan. 4, 1939. (U.S. Air Force photo)

Those are the markings used on 37-469 at the NMUSAF. Same plane, or were they chosen for looks? The yellow and black checkerboard cowls do stand out.

Someday I hope I can afford a 1/72 Special Hobby B-18 kit (or two) - I waited 35 years for a good Bolo and now that there is one, it costs fifty bucks... :roll:

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i never knew the p-43 could accomodate a separate photo crewman!!

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