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I'd like to see a display at my local museum of say, a poor condition and/or incomplete example of an aircraft wrapped in cosmoline. Also, hung by the proper crane type equipment. As long as they are hanging planes, why not make it more realistic? Use these pics as a guide. Maybe Soplata's P-47 fuselage all shrink wrapped. Was the color of this wrap material black? It gives the planes a different feel, makes me think the A-20's look Japanese.

Another view of 1940's military aviation in the form of many great photos.

Sincere thanks for the time and effort you take to bring these to us Mark.

Much appreciated.

Thanks again,

Barry

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Really cool Mark. I have a copy of the video for field assembly of the Jug shipped in three crates. You know it takes 50 able bodied airmen to carry a P-47 wing? Awesome process to watch.

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Your welcome gents. Best I post the rest of them ...


A damaged Lockheed P-38 on part of an assault barge is brought into port at the Dufferin Docks, Belfast, Northern Ireland.


A Dutch oil tanker arrives at Belfast, Northern Ireland, bearing a cargo of Republic P-47 Thunderbolts in addition to its regular cargo of oil. 13 February 1944.


P-47 Thunderbolt being unloaded at Pearl Harbor in 1942 for delivery to Hickam Field


Lockheed P-38s are unloaded from the deck of an American ship after it docked at Belfast, Ireland.


Lockheed P-38 Being Unloaded From A Ship At Queens Dock, Liverpool, England. 9 January 1943.


Lockheed P-38 Going Along Queen'S Drive In Liverpool On The Way To Liverpool Airport, Speke, England. 9 January 1943.


P-47S Are Carried To An Airfield On Trucks After They Were Unloaded At Liverpool, England From Tankers Which Transported Them From The United States. 29 February 1944.


Lockheed P-38 Lightning aircraft before their wings and engines were installed


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North American P-51'S And Douglas A-20'S Are Lined Up On The Dock At Liverpool, England After They Were Unloaded From A Ship Which Transported Them From The United States. 29 February 1944


North American P-51'S And Republic P-47'S At Lockheed Reassembly Plant, Liverpool Airport, Speke, Liverpool, England. 14 December 1943.

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RAF trucks with a special mount to transport the heavy P-47 Thunderbolt through the streets near Liverpool on November 19,1943


P-38 is lowered from the USS Delmorte on to a waiting carrier by U.S. Army soldiers and Lockheed Aircraft Corporation workers at the port of the Dufferin Docks Belfast,


P-51s are transferred from the deck of an American tanker to a heavy raft which is pulled into the dock by a tug at Belfast, Ireland


Republic P-47 Thunderbolts are unlashed and made ready to be unloaded at Belfast, Northern Ireland. 11 August 1943.


Republic P-47'S Are Loaded On A Lighter For Transportation To The Dock At Liverpool, England.


Lockheed P-38s are shown on the deck of an American ship just before they were unloaded at the dock at Belfast, Ireland.


Redeployment - Fighter Planes - Republic P-47 Thunderbolts On The Carrier Deck At Liverpool, England.


The American oil tanker Kenyon arrives at Belfast, Northern Ireland, laden with a cargo of Lockheed P-38 Lightnings in addition to its regular cargo of oil. 17 February 1944.


North American P-51B, Hickam Field, 1943


North American P-51 Is Degreased With Hot Kerosene At The Lockheed Reassembly Plant At Liverpool, England. 5 December 1943.

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The wrap around the cowlings and canopies isn't a shrink wrap, but is a cotton duck or linen material...like a light tent canvas...waterproofed to a degree by being rubberized or a impregged with wax, but then the cosmoline would seal it up when sprayed over it. The cosmoline would be oily when it was applied but sets up a firm waxy finish. Go back to the photos on the previous page and one of the P-38's looks like it's engine was wrapped with a light colored cotton or linen and the exterior layer has already been ripped off. Take another look at the P-61 where the canopy cover has been peeled away and looks like it had a lighter undermaterial over the plexi. Note the later photo Mark posted(above) of the P-51 being pressure washed with kerosene to remove grease(cosmoline)...note it running off landing gear inner doors. As for color of the canvas...I dunno, but I'd guess od green or brown. The cosmoline looks black but is a really dark brown. Find a gun collector and he'll more than likely have something in his stash that's been cosmolined...

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I'll second Barry's fine comment and add, "well done Mark; you continue to amaze and instruct. I truly enjoy your postings!"

-Tom

Thanks for another very interesting thread, Mark. Here a few shots from Google Life that I found a while back that was titled "Convoy to Africa".

Thx Larry, those are really nice photos.

Per a recent request ... more stuff.


North American P-51 Is Degreased With Hot Kerosene At The Lockheed Reassembly Plant At Liverpool, England. 5 December 1943


Mechanics Remove The Protective Grease Coating From Newly-Arrived North American P-51S At An Assembly Station At Filton, England. 18 April 1944


Republic P-47S Are Unloaded From Transport Trucks At An Airbase Near London, England After They Were Transported From The Docks.


North American P-51 Is Moved Into A Hangar For Reassembly At The Lockheed Reassembly Plant At Liverpool, England. 7 December 1943.


The Engine Of A North American P-51 Is Tested Before The Test Flight At The Lockheed Reassembly Plant At Liverpool, England. 14 December 1943.


North American P-51s and Republic P-47s are shown on the deck of a tanker in Ireland after they were transported from an American port. 5 October 1943.


Two USAAF P-51 Mustangs (serial numbers 43-6798 and 43-6985) and a Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm Grumman Avenger at a US assembly depot field in England.


North American P-51 Is Degreased With Hot Kerosene At The Lockheed Reassembly Plant At Liverpool, England. 5 December 1943.


Dispersal Area At Speke, England Awaiting Processing For Redeployment To The States And Eventually Service In The Pacific Air War


Mechanics Make Final Engine Tests On A Douglas A-20 At An Air Force Assembly Station At Filton, England. 18 April 1944


Lt. Charles H. Clark Of Los Angeles, Calif., Climbs Into A Reassembled North American P-51 At The Lockheed Reassembly Plant At Liverpool, England


General View Of North American P-51S And Other Fighter And Attack Planes Just Arrived At An Air Force Supply Base At Filton, England


Air Service Command mechanics wait for a P-47 on the dock at Liverpool


Aerial photograph of Speke airfield looking east, the technical site and control tower are on the left, 10 August 1945


Aerial photograph of Speke airfield looking west, the technical site and control tower are on the right, 9 March 1948

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I wonder who you had to piss off to get that job? Reeking of solvent and cosmoline for the duration...groan. Hopefully after displaying some common sense(don't p.o. the sarge) and motivation you'd soon rise to a desirable tech specialty...
Great subject Mark!

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"Leave it to ol' Slim. I got ideas...and they're all vile, baby." South Dakota Slim
"Ahh..."The Deuce", 28,000 pounds of motherly love." quote from some Mojave Grunt
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(Going on the assumption that "206" came from the same production batch as "170".)

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Hi...I'm new to the forum....I managed to track down the colour LIFE photos (by Dmitri Kessel) to the Google LIFE archive (not easy these days!!) but have all the photos posted by Mark Allen M been removed now? Or is there some way to view them?

Yes, send me your e-mail address.
mam121061@aol.com

M

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Not one of pics are for me anyhow

Dirty,

You've made your point to whoever you think might be interested many times now. Why don't you just give it a rest?

Mac

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