Warbird Information Exchange

DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on this site are the responsibility of the poster and do not reflect the views of the management.
It is currently Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:38 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Classic Wings Magazine WWII Naval Aviation Research Pacific Luftwaffe Resource Center
When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:10 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member

Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm
Posts: 7818
... before it became "Short Bier" ... interesting nose glass.

According to J. Baugher,
"Boeing B-17G-90-DL 44-83663 converted to TB-17G.
Sold to Brazilian AF as 5400. Returned to USAF in June 1968 and loaned as N47780
to Yesterday's Air Force in Chino, CA in early 1973. In 1978 loaded to Warbird Museum, Topeka, KS and flown to
a museum at the Coast Guard station in Clearwater, FL. Museum closed and the plane was transferred to
a museum in Cleveland, Ohio.
In 1987 moved to display at Hill Aerospace Museum, Hill AFB, Ogden, Utah, wearing colors of 860th BS, 493rd BG based at
Debach, Suffolk, UK as "Short Bier""

Image

Image

Image

Image
Photos found on an ebay sale.

http://www.hill.af.mil/library/factshee ... sp?id=5649

"This B-17G, S/N 44-83663 "Short Bier," was manufactured by Douglas Aircraft in Long Beach, California, and delivered to the USAAF on May 1, 1945. The following month it was transferred to Patterson Field, Ohio, and later that year was transferred to the 4132nd Base Unit (Air Materiel Command) in Garden City, Kansas.

It was then transferred to the 4141st Base Unit (AMC) at Pyote Field, Texas, in December of 1946 and finally placed in storage there with the 2753rd Aircraft Storage Squadron in April 1950. In March 1951 the aircraft was transferred to Spartan Aircraft Corporation in Tulsa, Oklahoma, for maintenance, and in June 1953 was turned over to the Brazilian Air Force. For the next 15 years the plane was operated in South America.

The aircraft was returned to the U.S. Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, in June 1968 and in early 1973 was loaned to Yesterday's Air Force in Chino, California. In 1978 it was loaned to the Warbird Museum in Topeka, Kansas. From there it made its last flight under its own power to a museum at the U.S. Coast Guard Air Station in Clearwater, Florida. Attempts were made to keep the old plane in flying condition, but a lack of funds forced that museum to close its doors and the aircraft was then temporarily assigned to a museum in Cleveland, Ohio.

In the spring of 1987 the plane was acquired by Ogden businessman John A. Lindquist, a member of the Board of Directors of the Aerospace Heritage Foundation of Utah, for restoration and display at Hill Aerospace Museum. Even though the engines were still being "run up" periodically the aircraft had deteriorated to being non-airworthy. The aircraft was dismantled by a crew from Hill AFB and transported back to the base via C-5 Galaxy. The B-17 was moved to the museum grounds and there reassembled for restoration. Exterior restoration was completed in the spring of 1991 and museum volunteers are still working on the renovation of the aircraft's interior.

Since its acquisition the B-17 has been sponsored annually by Mr. Lindquist, who flew as navigator on the original "Short Bier" in the 493rd Bombardment Group (Heavy) of the Eighth Air Force during World War II. The 493rd started out flying B-24s, but later switched over to B-17s. The first "Short Bier" was a B-24 Liberator, but when the squadron switched to B-17s the name was transferred to one of the Flying Fortresses. Lindquist and his crew finished their tour of duty in the B-17 "Short Bier," but that aircraft was later lost in action. Our restored B-17 is therefore the third "Short Bier" and is painted in the colors of the 493rd Bomb Group."

Image

Image

_________________
Zero Surprise!!...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:21 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:20 pm
Posts: 859
Location: Lincoln, California
A fine point, but I think the airplane remains under the jurisdiction (and ownership) of the NMUSAF, and is on loan to the Hill museum.

_________________
Scott Thompson
Aero Vintage Books
http://www.aerovintage.com
WIX Subscriber Since July 2017


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bradburger, Google Adsense [Bot], Larry Kraus and 310 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group