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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:00 pm 
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Ok, my guess is something German or french built. The brass fastener looks similar to a fastener I have on an instrument panel. Its a french built Nord 1002 (Bf 108) Suggest looking at all Argus powered aircraft like the Bf-108, The Fieseler Storch and the FW=189.
To me, it doesn't look beefy enough to have come off a fighter. Maybe a trainer or liason aircraft. Also, is there any way you can go back to the crash site and get more pieces or clues?


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Interesting thoughts - I bought it from a Hungarian chap at an aeroboot 6 years ago who had low English- so unlikely to get back to where it came from. He just shrugged his shoulders when I asked if he had any history.

I have checked the 189, 108 and Fi but no fit anywhere.

I also checked French built aircraft. There is a similar blister behind the firewall on the outboard side of the nacelle of the Potez 63 series.

On some images it flares into the wing leading edge on others it does not.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:51 am 
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This is a fun puzzle.
I've been enjoying this thread.
I don't have anything useful toward clues.
Just thanks for posting.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:16 am 
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Could it have come off an early helo? I looked at the Russian Yak, Kamov and Mil. The shape of the panel and lightweight design could suggest it's from a tail boom area...maybe 1950's time frame. Some of those early helos have tail booms with similar curves.


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Thanks for all the replies - I am tempted to put it away for another 7 years but we will persevere with all your excellent suggestions...

I had a Bregeut 593 cowl section I bought at the Speyer event it took many many months to work out what it was from as there are none left to compare it with.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:02 am 
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Busy for a few weeks..

Interesting link with the list of all aircraft used by Hungary.

http://aviatia.cda.ro/denes/Hungary/Hun ... Bernad.pdf

There are several with blisters - but no absolute fit which include.

Zlin Z X11
Imam Ro37 ( fiat inline engine)

Also I apologise to CoastieJohn - the Ro57 had blisters on its landing gear doors as shown here

http://www.cmpr.it/MN%20-%20Nomenclator ... Ro.57%20(7).jpg

From a very interesting site with manuals and details of Italian aircraft.

http://www.cmpr.it/manuali.htm

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Is there an award if we find the right aircraft? How about the Argus engined, german twin called the Seibel S204D ? Later built as the Aero C-3. Used by Germany and several nations, in WW II, and immediately postwar. Wikipedia lists the nations including HUNGARY.


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Marine air the only prize I can offie is Kudos..

I checked the Siebel but the engine cowls are a little Square and the few pics I could not find to match.

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Using the list, could it be a part from a Weis Manfréd WM-23 that you see here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/27862259@N02/5982283941/in/photostream/

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Eric that was an interesting aircraft as were the other WM machines.

The information on it is patchy but the suggestion was that they only made one machine and when it crashed they never got around to making the metal version..

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FarlamAirframes wrote:
Eric that was an interesting aircraft as were the other WM machines.

The information on it is patchy but the suggestion was that they only made one machine and when it crashed they never got around to making the metal version..


OK, so how about the Hungarian built MAVAG = Re 2000 Héja that you can find here:

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/hungarian-aircraft.8284/

That one seems to have been in production.

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Eric - I was so sure that it was a Heja I purchased a book to confirm.

Unfortunately I could not see the panel in place. The Re2000 has a blister on the cowl in front of the cockpit. But when you have the book you can see (as shown in the attached diagram) that the blister is on the small strip above the hinged panel only ( part 5149). That lies in between 5148 and 5150.

http://www.cmpr.it/MN%20-%20Nomenclator ... ica-95.jpg

The only question I cannot be sure of is whether the Heja 2 was the same...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:44 am 
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On a lot of fabric covered aircraft where the fuel tank is in the wing, you'll see a metal panel overing the fuel tank. This enables it to be removed for repairs when necessary. Just suggesting you look at the refueling areas on these aircraft.


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Thank you - will do.

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