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When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:32 pm 
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These are pages from a booklet entitled Dilberts Still Fly, produced by the Aviation Safety Board at NAS Glenview. It shows the causes and results of 28 different wartime accidents at the base involving the N2S trainer. Note the various markings, as well as the winter cowlings on some of the aircraft (some also have canopy rails).

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Any idea of the colors of these aircraft?
Were they marked with "NAS Glenview" in any way?
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Any idea of the colors of these aircraft?
Were they marked with "NAS Glenview" in any way?
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It looks like all of them were painted yellow; at least three have the top third of the rudder painted a darker color. None of them have "Glenview", but many of them vary in the size and position of the star & bar insignia. Most have the word "Navy" on the rear of the fuselage. As far as BuNos, four were legible: 07833, 38348, 38352 and 38357.

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I'd say from 41 to 44 time frame, since some of them had the stars and bars. Whew no N3N's. I know Glenview had a few. Ours was there a short time.

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Chris,

I own Stearman Bu No. 38159 based at NAS Glenview from '43 to '45. That booklet appears to be a treasure. Do you know how I could get a copy?

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Sir:

I realize it has been somtime since you posted this but would appreciate it if you could provide any further information from the booklet from the Glenview NAS Safety Board. I have been researching my Uncle's service in the Navy duirng WWII. He was killed in a mid-air collision with another N2s at the end of the airfield. I am wondering if his crash is included in the booklet.

Four were killed in the collission which occured I believe in December 1943??

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Hi Tom

I've digitized the whole booklet and I'll check it when I get home. As you can see there are no specific dates or names but if one of the descriptions is right I'll post it.

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Many thanks I appreciate it.

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One common theme - seatbelts and shoulder harnesses are quite effective


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I'm sorry, it was hard to hear you over N3N Jeff giggling like a little girl and clapping :lol:
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I'd bet most of the pilots in those accidents posted above were washed out as a result.

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