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Jim MacDonald wrote:I checked my Navy & Marine Overseas Loss List database & there were no biplanes losses for 4 Jun 42 at Midway in it. Is it possible that it was an AAF plane, or possibly that portion of the clip was from the Pearl Harbor attack?
Mac
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:33 pm
JohnB wrote:According to Wiki, it was filmed by Ford during the actual battle.
So if you see B-18s there, they were there.
Odd biplane though. Looks like a Fiat CR.42 to me.
According to the same source, Ford had a lot of footage of VT-8, and after their losses in the battle, had it edited into a short silent film (with silent film like titles) and transferred to 8mm home movie film and had a copy sent to each of the families.
Wow!
It would be great to see that footage, I wonder if any of the copies sent to families survive?
Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:08 pm
hurricane_yank wrote:Does anyone know where this footage (from the John Ford Midway (1942)) was taken?
I am most interested in what the biplane is in the foreground.
It was not taken at Midway as there were no B-18's there. Was this staged after Pearl for the film? Possibly in a scrapyard on the island?
Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:26 pm
Chris Brame wrote:hurricane_yank wrote:Does anyone know where this footage (from the John Ford Midway (1942)) was taken?
I am most interested in what the biplane is in the foreground.
It was not taken at Midway as there were no B-18's there. Was this staged after Pearl for the film? Possibly in a scrapyard on the island?
This footage was taken at Hickam or Wheeler after the attack for newsreel and documentary use; there are longer copies around showing a soldier putting a torch to the biplane, which is a Douglas BT-2 trainer. There were a few of these oldies left in Hawaii at the time of the attack; one had been cracked up by George Welch the previous May.
Raw footage here, thanks to Mark Allen M for finding it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxniF4UB9M
Previous thread from 2016:
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.o ... as#p585592
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