Warbird Information Exchange

Hey, I'm teaching our Annual Recurrent Training in a week. For my "Review of 2023 Incidents/Accidents in the Industry", could anyone point out warbird/vintage incidents that I should know about? Note: just events from 2023.

I've got the T-28 in Hungary, the Wildcat in the UK, the C-123 at Geneseo, an F-16 tipover, the Stearman vs the combine, and the AN-2 into the trees.

Thanks,

Dave

Hi Dave,

L-29 crashed during a show in Argentina:

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/347812

I'm not sure if any of these you would want to include, Dave:

- The Yak-3 "Full Noise", registered as ZK-VVS, was severely damaged at the Omaka Airport in Blenhiem, New Zealand, as a result of an aborted takeoff on May 12, 2023. The aircraft has been undergoing rebuild to fly again.

- P-40E Warhawk AK753 (N4420K) was significantly damaged in a fatal crash in Hamilton, Montana, shortly after takeoff on June 27, 2023.

- Spitfire Mk.IX SL633 (N633VS) was damaged as a result of a runway excursion caused by an inability to maintain directional control with a 90-degree crosswind during landing rollout at Deer Park, Washington, on July 7, 2023. The aircraft was sold to a new owner in Australia, and it's believed it will be repaired there.

Technically 2024, but Tim Savage posted a very thoughtful piece on an accident he luckily avoided when an interior panel fell inside his P-40's rear cockpit and interfered with the control stick. He makes a powerful point by highlighting the potential severity of a detail that some might dismiss as inconsequential.

Ken

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Thanks, that's enough for my session.

Re the P-40, yes that's the one I oversaw the restoration of, and did all my early warbird flying in.

Dave

I haven't read that, can you post a link to that discussion?

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Tim posted the write up with a few photos on his Facebook page. He mentions that is going to fly without the panels until a permanent fix can be made.

Not a facebook person, can someone copy and paste here?

I am a Facebook person, and I cannot even find his page.

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MiG-23 at Thunder. That one was scary because of how close the aircraft came to impacting the apartment complex.


When you think about it, we've REALLY been lucky with our mishaps, if the the B-17/P-63 had happened a few seconds earlier, the MiG had been a dozen feet to one side, any others where we were darn lucky not to have non-airshow injuries/fatalities?

Check your PMs.

An L-139 flown by race pilot Dianna Stanger had an engine failure on short final to the Bridgeport TX airport. The airplane slid into an old barn which concealed the wreckage for a short while rescuers searched for her and passenger. This happened 19 April 2023 and both are still recovering from injuries. The fuselage remained mostly intact, but the wings came off going thru trees. Have not seen a final report on the cause of the engine failure.

Hi Warbirdnerd, I just did, and see no PM from you.

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Hey Dave - would you be willing to share your presentation/report for other operators to learn from? Privately or publicly? I participate in a group operating several fighters & trainers and am always working to raise the bar of professionalism and education within the group. I understand it's something that will take quite a lot of your effort to compile and analyze so if you'd rather not share that's fine too. Thanks.

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Ryan,

Our ART is in-house and focused on our own aircraft (upgrades, snags, etc) and our Calendar for the year, and paperwork items. Boring stuff like Review of the Flight Ops Manual. The training-plan. Changes to local airspace.

So it's not really tailored to a general presentation for a wider audience.

I use the Incidents From The Industry to wake us up from the snowy winter, and focus our attention. It's a good way to generate discussion and get the warbird-brain spooled-up. But it's not the major part of the day.

There's no particular secret about our session, it's just that it has a local focus.

But most outfits do something along these lines of course. The general headings are:

-- What we did last year (include remarks from the Owner/CEO)
-- What we plan to do this year (make sure the Events Calendar is accurate)
-- Status of the fleet, airplane by airplane
-- Incidents from our own Ops, and from the Industry
-- Training/Upgrade Plan
-- Paperwork, licenses-medicals-documents, aircraft-documents
-- Review of the Operational Procedures, and Quiz
-- T-6 Review for rust-remover quals, and Quiz
-- then later, follow-up on all the questions and notes generated by the day's discussions

Dave