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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:45 pm 
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What happened to the replicas from the 94th Aero restaurant in College Park, Marxland?

https://www.benjaminsumner.com/2011/10/ ... lege-park/


I believe most of these went to the Air Classics Museum near Chicago. But I could be wrong. The Corsair I believe went to the Massey Aerodrome. Would have loved to get that bird for the Sikorsky Airport.

Bf-109 - Air Classics Museum, Sugar Grove, Illinois, USA (Tallichet Replica)
P-40N - Air Classics Museum, Sugar Grove, Illinois, USA (Tallichet Replica)
P-51D - Air Classics Museum, Sugar Grove, Illinois, USA (Tallichet Replica)
P-47D - Air Classics Museum, Sugar Grove, Illinois, USA (Tallichet Replica)
P-47D - (In Storage) Air Classics Museum, Sugar Grove, Illinois, USA (Tallichet Replica)

F4U-1D - Massey Air Museum, Massey, MD, USA (Tallichet Replica)

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IAR 80, National Military Museum, Bucharest, Romania

Macchi C.202 Folgore, Volandia Park and Museum of Flight, Milan - Malpensa, Italy

Macchi C.205 Veltro, Volandia Park and Museum of Flight, Milan - Malpensa, Italy

There is a second C.205 replica, but I can't find who owns it or where it is located in Italy. All three were made to be easily disassembled and transported for display at air shows and special events. Each cost 40,000 Euro when they were constructed around 2008. They are beautifully made and extremely accurate.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:40 pm 
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Also, I believe the P-38 at McGuire is a replica.

Well, considering it was flown in there by David Tallichet in 1981 before being put on the pole, I’d say not.

Any idea what David got in return for the P-38?


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According to A. Kevin Grantham's book "P-Screamers", Dave Tallichet traded the 38 and a P-47 for a pair of C-130A Hercules aircraft.

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For those of you too young to remember those days, such trades were common back then.
The government got historic aircraft it wanted in exchange for aircraft that would otherwise be languishing at D-M or scrapped.

Early '130s and C-118s were popular trade items. In other words, people wanted aircraft that had commercial value as freighters or fire bombers.

I was told by a well placed source that Pete Regina wanted a airworthy
C-130 in exchange for his flying P-51B, which was very rare at the time.
Someone determined that that offer was not in the best interests of the government.

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I have heard that the Sopwith Camel at NM-Naval Aviation is a reproduction (metal frame) with some original parts, though NMNA appears to list this as original. Listing by Sopwith specialists often do not list this as original. Anyone have more information or perspective on that?

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Spitfire Emporium in Kitchener Ontario. I believe these folks may have had a part in the fiberglass Hurricane at the Canadian Warplane Heritage, ring a bell with anyone else?
Yup. The owner of KW Surplus & the Spitfire Emporium (among other businesses) purchased both the Spitfire and the aforementioned Hurricane in the UK, and he then donated the Hurricane to CWH to replace the one lost in the 1993 fire. Sadly, he is in the process of retiring and selling the businesses. The Spitfire Emporium is now closed, and there have been many parties interested in acquiring the Spitfire (which currently wears the markings of 412 Sqn Spitfire pilot Charley Fox). The T-55 tank out front has already been sold and is headed to the Oshawa area.


Not sure if it counts as an 'Early Aviation' warbird or not (do the original Wright Flyer and Whitehead No. 21 even count too?) but there are at least six full-scale replicas of the AEA Silver Dart here in Canada.
Examples at:
Alexander Graham Bell Museum in Baddeck, NS
Atlantic Canada Aviation Museum just outside Halifax, NS
Canada Aviation & Space Museum in Ottawa, ON
National Air Force Museum of Canada in Trenton, ON
Canadian Bushplane Heritage Centre in Sault Ste Marie, ON
The Hangar Flight Museum in Calgary, AB


There is also the full-scale Burgess Dunne replica at the National Air Force Museum of Canada in Trenton, ON, which represents Canada's first purpose-built military aircraft.
http://airforcemuseum.ca/en/aircraft-2/burgess-dunne

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:19 am 
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A few from the far corner of southwestern Ontario. Sorry if mentioned already.

Windsor, Ont.: Spitfire IX replica in 417 City of Windsor marks and Hurricane I replica in 401 marks. Located in Jackson Park on the former display site of Lancaster FM212, which is now under restoration at Windsor Airport.

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Essex, Ont.: Spitfire IX replica in 401 marks (Jerry Billing). Installed 2014.

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Couple of other notes.

The Proud Bird restaurant listed in the first post is in Los Angeles adjacent to LAX, not in Chino, as stated.

Discussed on this forum before, but not noted in the initial list, the (scaled down?) TBD ex "Midway" movie at USS Midway museum, San Diego.

Also in San Diego, the Aerospace Museum in Balboa Park has a number of mockups on display, including:

Bell X-1
Ryan NYP
Lockheed Vega (from "Amelia" film)
Gee Bee R-1
Messerschmitt Bf 109G
Possibly some of the WWI types, although some are original and some may be airworthy or accurate replicas rather than mockups.

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Do we include previously-airworthy aircraft? If so, the examples in italics should be considered.

WWI:
Airco
Airco DH.2 - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ (Walt Redfern-built Kinner-powered)

Albatros
Albatros B.II - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ

Breguet
Breguet 14.A2 - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ

Etrich
Etrich Taube - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ

Farman
Maurice Farman MF.11bis - (In storage) Wellington, NZ?

Fokker
Fokker E.III - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ
Fokker DR.I - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ (intended airworthy, presented in crash dio)

Morane-Saulnier
Morane-Saulnier Type BB - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ

Nieuport
Nieuport 27 - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ

Pfalz
Pfalz D.III - Auto und Technik Museum, Speyer, Germany (built by PFW)
Pfalz D.III - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ (built by Viv Bellamy for The Blue Max, restored)

Royal Aircraft Factory
Royal Aircraft Factory RE.8 - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ
Royal Aircraft Factory SE.5a - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ
Royal Aircraft Factory SE.5a - Warbirds and Wheels Museum, Wanaka, NZ

Siemens-Shuckert
Siemens-Shuckert D.IV - Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, Omaka Aerodrome, Blenheim, NZ

WWII:
Hawker Hurricane
Mk.I - Museum of Transport and Technology, Auckland, NZ
Mk.IIb - Warbirds and Wheels Museum, Wanaka, NZ

North American T-6
Harvard Mk.II - Harvard Adventure Park, Pahiatua, NZ

Supermarine Spitfire
Mk.LFXVIe - Christchurch Air Force Memorial(?)/Spitfire Square, Christchurch, NZ
Mk.LFXVIe - Memorial Park, Hamilton, NZ
Mk.LFXVIe - RNZAF Base Whenuapai, Auckland, NZ

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Do we include previously-airworthy aircraft? If so, the examples in italics should be considered.


I don't see why not! Keep em' coming everybody. I know there are more than what I have on this list. I bet there are probably twice as many Spits, Hurricanes still. Not to mention a ton of Wright Flyers too. I've also been editing and reorganizing all the planes. Taker a look to see if its in more of a logical order.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:09 pm 
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Also in San Diego, the Aerospace Museum in Balboa Park has a number of mockups on display, including:
Bell X-1
Ryan NYP
Lockheed Vega (from "Amelia" film)
Gee Bee R-1
Messerschmitt Bf 109G

They also have a nice looking Horten Ho 229
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And a Me262 ?
Is the engine real ?

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There seems to be more flying replicas of the Spirit of St. Louis than static ones.
The San Diego museum had one built by Tallmantz for a 1967 TV documentary, sadly it was lost in the 1978 fire.

The EAA has an airworthy replica (which toured America following Lindbergh's post flight route in 1977) and there was one in Europe (Sweden, IIRC) that was lost in a fatal accident a couple of years ago.

BTW: If anyone is in the market for a Ryan Broughm project, the father of an acquaintance has one...lost in the Rockies in 1928-9 and found (reportedly with the pilot and the Christmas presents he was carrying) and recovered in early 1970s.
Not much left but likely enough to qualify it as a rebuild and not a replica.

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Plenty of replicas in The Netherlands, I'll list a few off the top of my head:

Wright Flyer, Aviodrome, Lelystad
Bleriot XI, Aviodrome, Lelystad
De Havilland (Airco) DH.9B, Aviodrome, Lelystad
Fokker Dr.1, Aviodrome, Lelystad
Fokker F.II, Aviodrome, Lelystad
Lilienthal Gleitflugzeug, Aviodrome, Lelystad
Nieuport 11 C1 Bebe, Aviodrome, Lelystad
Spyker V.2, Aviodrome, Lelystad
Spitfire Mk.IX, Aviodrome, Lelystad
Van Berkel WA, Aviodrome, Lelystad
Spitfire Mk.IX, Royal Dutch Air Force Historical Flight, Gilze-Rijen
Spitfire Mk.IX, Eindhoven Air Base (mounted on a pole)
Spitfire Mk.IX, Museum Bevrijdende Vleugels, Best
Spitfire Mk.IX, Leeuwarden Air Base
Spitfire Mk.IX, National Military Museum, Soesterberg
Fokker G.I, National Military Museum, Soesterberg
Fokker D.XXI, National Military Museum, Soesterberg
Fokker C.X, National Military Museum, Soesterberg
Koolhoven F.K.51, National Military Museum, Soesterberg
Farman HF.20, National Military Museum, Soesterberg
Curtiss P-6E Hawk, National Military Museum, Soesterberg
Brewster B-339C 'Buffalo', National Military Museum, Soesterberg
Fokker F.VIIb-3m, Transport Museum, Nieuw Vennep

I noticed that an important Spitfire replica did not make the list yet: the 1:1 scale Airfix Spitfire at RAF Museum Cosford, UK, which was put together for James May's 'Toy Stories':
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