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 Post subject: Not a warbird, but what?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:42 pm 
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Any ideas?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:53 pm 
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I seem to recall this was subject of a loooong thread a while back, without a definitive answer.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:04 pm 
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quemerford wrote:
I seem to recall this was subject of a loooong thread a while back, without a definitive answer.


On Flypast wasn't it?


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Hooligan2 wrote:
quemerford wrote:
I seem to recall this was subject of a loooong thread a while back, without a definitive answer.


On Flypast wasn't it?


I gave up on Flypast years ago so not there. PPRuNe maybe?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:13 pm 
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It was somewhere I post, so either here or FlyPast (before their forum pretty much died).

No definitive answer.
Some guys kept saying it was an "X" with so many major changes, which taken as a whole, would not make it an "X" any longer.
Some guys think modifying an airworthy aircraft is as simple as chopping a '32 Ford.

The fixed gear dates it a narrow window since retractable gear came fairly quickly after monoplanes became big.
And the radial does not make it look European to me.

If it were American, I'd call it a Seversky, but I can't find a Severely To match it.

To me, it also looks like an early Nakajima, the record setting Mitsubishi Ki-15 Kamikaze from 1937, or a progenitor of the Aichi D3A "Val".

IIRC, Some called it a film prop, but I don't think so since studios could usually borrow real aircraft like the early B-17, A-17 and Seversky SEV-S2 used in Test Pilot.

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Maybe it was Flypast after all - it was obviously a few more years ago than I thought :(

For sure it's a lovely-looking machine and I'd love to find out the story behind the image, whether it's a well-executed piece of modelling/Photoshop or a genuine aircraft.


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A Fokker perhaps- or a fixed-gear Curtiss Hawk 75?


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To me it looks like a Northrop product.

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Sure it was Flypast, think I was still working so that's pre-2018.

The other thread trawled just about every manufacturer people could think of in the US, Japan, right around Europe... nothing seemed to quite fit. "We was proper stumped..."


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I think we run the risk of repeating all of the suggestions made on the other forum. I think that run went through the usual (Lockheed, Ryan etc), then to obscure Russian, Japanese and French types and so unless someone knows for sure what it is, I don't think we'll get any further.


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Could this be the Granville Gee Bee R-6 (now in Mexico)?

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old iron wrote:
Could this be the Granville Gee Bee R-6 (now in Mexico)?


Spats too small, fin too large. Anyone have a link to that other thread?


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old iron wrote:
Could this be the Granville Gee Bee R-6 (now in Mexico)?

In that similar school, I was thinking the military version of the Hawks Miller HM-1...the Miller HM-1, but it had retracts...sigh... pop2

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I remember the original Flypast thread. As the search function there is pretty abysmal I tried another way and found this four page thread on a different forum about this image: https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/m ... aft.48498/

I'm pretty sure that the Flypast consensus ended up as 'unknown', I'll go and have a look at this thread I found now to see if they did any better!

Edited to add: no conclusive answer there unfortunately, but it's worth a read to see the options. It's definitively not a Fokker D.XXI variant.

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