Warbird Information Exchange

Mike,

I am almost certain the SNV-1 that Bruce Koch had at "Thunder Over Michigan" as "California Girl" is N61916 and not N70030. I will check this when I get home tonight.

Also, I believe the T-28A in South Vietnamese colors that Jim Church mentioned is "Littl' Jugs", "AK", 50-221, NX221LH and registered to Trojan LLC which I believe to be Larry Hoffmeister.

Todd

I certainly will never dig in my heels and suggest I am never wrong... as I have been publicly proven wrong before.

However... I just rechecked the registration for N70030 and it is a Valiant registered to Bruce R. Koch. Here is what I have on this one including the most recent FAA info...

Model: Vultee BT-13 Valiant
S/N: 42-42552 USAAF
C/N: 9630
C/R: N70030, BT-13, 9630
Owner: Bruce R. Koch
Codes: "California Girl", "71", "12614"
History: BT-13A (1943) 42-42552 USAAF, N70030

Now is it possible that Mr. Koch owns more than one valiant. I am assuming that c/n 9630 is in fact "California Girl". I have made bad assumptions before.



Thanks for this info Todd. I will assimilate the info into the list.

I just sent an email to those that were interested in a draft. I'll add you to the distribution Todd, and send an update with the new info tomorrow.

Regards,

Mike

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Mike,

Of course N61916 is also registered to Mr. Koch, as an SNV-1. I remember the pilot/plane information sheet that he filled out at the Grosse Ile Airshow stated that his plane was one of the very few SNVs still flying. N70030 is registered as a BT-13 and your data has it as a BT-13A 42-42552.

Airliners.net has a photo of the plane listed under N61916.

If I remember correctly, I had listed this airplane as N70030 on my early versions of my 2003 "Thunder Over Michigan" Air Display Aircraft Listing. Perhaps this is where N70030 entered the mix.

I will check my files tonight.

Todd

Good thing I never claim I am never wrong!

Will make the appropriate changes to the list.

Mike

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As I was standing right next to the SNV, I copied the tail number N61916 directly off the right side of the plane. Bruce Koch has two BT's on the books.

I also copied the AD-5 tail number off the plane, and that one Mike is correct on, it is N39147 (no X anymore)

Although it was just a visitor on Friday, missing from your list is a Waco UPF-7 registered as NC 3015, does it count? (Should I tell Mike about the T-34 that was there on Friday also, in RCAF markings?shhhhhh)

Oh you are mean! Give me the details on the other T-34. I'll put it on the list for the sake of completeness.

Mike

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Mike,

The T-34 that Roger is referring to is N344SG. You can see a photo of it at: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/175228/M/

Yes, it did have the canopy cover with the Canadian registration of C-FMDM I believe. It is registered to a Glenn Goldman of McLean, Virginia.

Todd

Todd/Mike--

That T-34 is the ex Don McNall/CWH Mentor; Glenn is another ex-CWHer and took the T-34 Stateside when he moved a few years back. He has posted to WIX on occasion. The Mentor, I recall, had one of the nicest paintjobs in the CWH fleet, similar to the late lamented first Mustang; a real beauty. Too bad Glenn was only there on the Friday--would've been neat to catch up with him, haven't seen him in ages.

S.

Yup, that's the one I was referring to..........