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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:35 pm 
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Happy Xmas + 1 :D I was going to wait until after the 1st of the year to post a new thread but I have some down time (to continue to harrass you guys with :wink: ) and thought some of you may enjoy a few C-47's. Hope you all had a nice day yesterday. I've cleaned these guys up as best I dare with photoshop and labeled with as much info as I have. Source SDASM, USAF archives.

Just reviewed the posts and sorry but many of the photos just couldn't be cleaned up better. A lot of fuzzy and faded images :(

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Douglas C-33

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Douglas R4D-4 NATS 2-star Admiral command plane from the Naval Air Transport Service at Oakland on April 9 1946

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Douglas C-42 front view SN 38-503 "Flying Chief" note the curtains in the cabin windows (US Air Force photo)

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43-49404 built as a C-47 B-15-DK Photo probably taken between 1953 and 1963

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An R4D Skytrain assigned to Naval Air Station NAS Corpus Christi Texas circa 1955

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C-47 A CA ANG Hayward

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Douglas SC-47D Skytrain of the C Flight of the 6th Rescue Squadron USAF Air Rescue Service

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Douglas C-47

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R4D Skytrain The aircraft is probably assigned to Marine Utility Squadron 352 VMJ-352

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Canadian Air Force C-47 seconded to the UN

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C-47 Skytrain "Gooney Bird" based at Hickam Air Force Base Hawaii from early 1950's to mid-1970's

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An RAF Dakota unloading supplies most probably at Lubeck in 1945

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C-47A-90-DL Skytrain 73rd Troop Carrier Squadron 434th Troop Carrier Group 9th Air Force

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C-47's 71st Troop Carrier Squadron CJ Daytime Supply Mission

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Douglas C-47's 12th Air Force Troop Carrier Wing loaded with paratroopers on their way for the invasion of Southern France 15 August 1944 (US Air Force photo)

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Douglas C-47 spraying DDT insecticide over American camp area to control malaria-carrying mosquitoes Manila Philippines 1945-1946

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Douglas C-47 with gliders loaded with airborne troops for operation Market Garden in Holland in Sept 1944

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Douglas C-47A-50-DL Skytrain at Amchitka

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Douglas C-47 dakota production line long beach

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Isachsen Weather Station 1949

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Market Garden C-47 transports

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WACO gliders and transport aircraft C-47

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Gen MacArthur lower left

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439th Troop Carrier Group Upottery Devonshire England USAAF Station 462

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Bastogne supply drop 1944

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Torslanda Sweden 1945

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R4D Skytrain F4U Corsair and TBM Avenger aircraft surround personnel in ranks during an inspection inside of the blimp hangar at Naval Air Station NAS South Weymouth M

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R4D Skytrain assigned to Marine Utility Squadron 352 VMJ-352 following a landing accident probably at Cherry Point NC

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R4D on USS Philippine Sea 1947

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Over head view of the aircraft carrier Philippine Sea CV 47 passing through the Panama Canal enroute to Antarctica for Oepration High jump 1946

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Antarctic 1947

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C-47 dropping supplies during the Burma campaign in 1944

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C-47 practices mail cylinder pick-up at Parks Metropolitan Airport St Louis 1946

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A team of American flying nurses who ferry wounded soldiers from the North African battlefields to the rear for treatment April 1943 (LIFE archives)

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Nice Boxing Day present! Thanx Mark- pop1

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Good stuff again - I'd like to know more about the postwar shots of the glider (CG-15? And why the long pod atop its cabin?) being towed right on the C-47's tail, and especially the Culver drone (edit: It's a survivor - N999ML at the EAA Museum!) stuck on the C-47's wingtip.

Edit again: more info and photos here:
http://www.air-and-space.com/Wing%20Tip ... 20Q-14.htm

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Chris Brame wrote:
Good stuff again - I'd like to know more about the postwar shots of the glider (CG-15? And why the long pod atop its cabin?) being towed right on the C-47's tail, and especially the Culver drone (edit: It's a survivor - N999ML at the EAA Museum!) stuck on the C-47's wingtip.

Edit again: more info and photos here:
http://www.air-and-space.com/Wing%20Tip ... 20Q-14.htm


The initial tests for project TipTow used the CULVER and C-47, this eventually leading up to project TomTom using 2 F-84's and a B-29 (and a B-36) in an attempt to have the bomber forces tow their protection into attacks on the Soviets. Far from sucessful, several accidents and the last try was the Xf-85/RF-F-84 FICON program.
A long, twisted, and expensive part of post WW2 strategery that resulted in serious lessons learned and the sound of a huge toilet full of money being flushed.

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Love the picture of the para-paks and the Culver wing-tip tow.


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thank you,thank you,thank you


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Chris,I think that the fairing on the top of the CG-15 glider in rigid tow might be a camera housing for the rigid tow bar tests.There are pictures of apparently the same CG-15 being towed by a C-46 in this link

http://koreanwarletters.blogspot.com/20 ... age-2.html

I also found a document on the tests using a C-82 and a CG-15 with the rigid tow bar.The document is from 1952 and it states that the system was copied from a Luftwaffe tow bar.Here's a link to the document.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/004527.pdf


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The Luftwaffe experimented with towed to intercept point Blohm and Voss BV-40 armed gliders (that resembled the crate a Schweitzer 2-32 was shipped in) with a prone pilot and 2 X 30mm cannons that used a short, rigid tow bar. They also did basically the same thing with towed aerial bombs behind fighters where the bomb was too big to be lifted in a conventional manner under a Bf-109.
The USAAF also looked into a rigid towbar setup for a proposed tailess, reverse swept wing multi thousand gallon flying piloted fuel supply bowser the Cornelius XFG-1, which if memory serves was made of plywood, two built and tesed but project abandoned after WW2 :shock:

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So-o-o-o-o-o-o Close! I've been looking for pics of 42-100985, and you have a pic of 42-100989!

42-100985 was sold surplus to Capital Airlines in February 1946, where it was registered NC88835 (later N88835), flew as the "Capitaliner Pittsburgh" before being relegated to a training role. It crashed on June 22, 1957 near Clarksburg, Maryland, killing its crew of three and very narrowly missing (by 15 feet) a house which had a mother and her three kids inside, while the father was outside and "hit the deck" to avoid being hit by the plane and debris. I've done a lot of research on this crash for the Maryland-National Capital Park & Planning Commission, who now owns the land where the plane crashed and am preparing a final report / article to submit to the park historians. I'd love to find a pic of the plane in her AAF livery.


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Hi Mark
If you have a better picture can you tell me if the serial is 282914 or 292914 and the nickname "American Beauty"?
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