Warbird Information Exchange

DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on this site are the responsibility of the poster and do not reflect the views of the management.
It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:56 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Classic Wings Magazine WWII Naval Aviation Research Pacific Luftwaffe Resource Center
When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Replica P-40s in China
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:40 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:54 am
Posts: 5116
Location: Stratford, CT.
Found these two. Don't look half bad at all. I'd love a B model for sure! Anyone know anymore?

Image
http://timable.com/zh-hk/event/984787

Image
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2015/06/24/2003621454

_________________
Keep Em' Flying,
Christopher Soltis

Dedicated to the preservation and education of The Sikorsky Memorial Airport

CASC Blog Page: http://ctair-space.blogspot.com/
Warbird Wear: https://www.redbubble.com/people/warbirdwear/shop

Chicks Dig Warbirds.......right?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:01 pm 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club

Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:38 pm
Posts: 2628
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
I worked for a communist chinese company last year named "American Wonder Porcelain." They have five factories in China and one here in Tennessee. Yes, it was a fantasy to go overseas and work and on my time off look for P-40's , expecially those used by the AVG. An original Doolittle Raider's B-25 survivor would also be a great find. THE AVG had other aircraft like B-25's and PT-22's. They are quite a bit behind western culture and it may be fifty years before anyone has the ability to look for warbirds over there.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:24 pm 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:11 am
Posts: 2373
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Love the tires? 20 inches rims?

But except for that...looks pretty sharp


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:48 am 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!

Joined: Sun May 30, 2004 9:56 am
Posts: 1518
Location: Brush Prairie, WA, USA
and a lot of P-66s

_________________
GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Press "1" for English.
Press "2" to disconnect until you have learned to speak English.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:22 am
Posts: 620
Location: VA, USA
Looking good, especially that first one.

They've found a novel cure for dummy-airplane-drooping-wings-syndrome.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:38 am 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:27 am
Posts: 5228
Location: Eastern Washington
At least they seem to remember and appreciate what Americans did in the war....something not always seen elsewhere.

_________________
Remember the vets, the wonderful planes they flew and their sacrifices for a future many of them did not live to see.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:58 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club

Joined: Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am
Posts: 3236
I am confused.

The second photo appears to be of an ROC (Taiwan) pre-show, if I am understanding this correctly.

There is also mention of a planned Tienanmen Square ceremony in the PRC (Beijing, Peiping, or Pekin) and there is no clear indication as to where the P-40 replicas are. Wheel cover colors are a little different.

So,are these Taiwanese-located replicas, or are they mainland China based?

The newspaper report, belongs to a Taiwanese newspaper.

Anyone has more informarion? Bueller? Bueller...


Saludos,


Tulio

_________________
Why take the best part of life out of your life, when you can have life with the best part of your life in your life?

I am one of them 'futbol' people.

Will the previous owner has pics of this double cabin sample

GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Press "1" for English.
Press "2" to disconnect until you have learned to speak English.


Sooooo, how am I going to know to press 1 or 2, if I do not speak English????


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:03 am 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:27 am
Posts: 5228
Location: Eastern Washington
I don't care where they are...I'm too shocked that people outside the U.S. appreciate what our forefathers did 75 years ago....not to mention the fact that they...unlike many in this country...aren't turned off by the military force required or "offended" (to use the words of a WIX-er in a recent thread) by the violence it took to repel foreign invaders.

We've had the luxury of a homeland that's been at peace, (while many people in the world haven't been that fortunate), thus we don't fully appreciate the freedom we have or the sacrifices that sometimes have to be made.

_________________
Remember the vets, the wonderful planes they flew and their sacrifices for a future many of them did not live to see.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:22 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:10 pm
Posts: 3185
Location: New York
The P-40B replica is in Hong Kong. I agree with Tulio, the other one appears to be in Taiwan. So, neither one exactly is in China, although HK is a special administrative region of China.

However, the PRC has always acknowledged the AVG. Probably more as a matter of politics and ideology than honoring anyone's forefathers. They distorted the history of the AVG quite a bit to fit it into the narrative of the war as it related to the competitors for control of China. As just one minor manifestation of this, you wouldn't see a fully accurate P-40 paint scheme in a picture there for a long time, because that ROC national insignia was unwelcome. That may have changed.

Considering that very accurate plastic and RC scale model P-40s are made in China by the hundreds of thousands, they ought to have a decent idea what one looks like.

Interesting pics anyway, thanks for sharing.

August


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:57 pm 
Offline
Been here a long time
Been here a long time

Joined: Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am
Posts: 11275
The first one is from Hong Kong, so not mainland China.

There is at least one P-40 replica in Beijing that I have seen in person.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:15 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club

Joined: Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am
Posts: 3236
First, I don't care that you don't care :lol: :lol: :lol: :drink3: :drink3: :drink3:

Now thank you guys for the additional information. It will come useful, when deciding one of these days, if going to Taiwan and HK to see airplanes, even if they are replicas.

Saludos and Jing Bao!

Tulio

_________________
Why take the best part of life out of your life, when you can have life with the best part of your life in your life?

I am one of them 'futbol' people.

Will the previous owner has pics of this double cabin sample

GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Press "1" for English.
Press "2" to disconnect until you have learned to speak English.


Sooooo, how am I going to know to press 1 or 2, if I do not speak English????


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:32 am 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:11 pm
Posts: 1911
Location: Pacific Northwest USA, via North Florida
Those replicas look great, and nobody has to worry about a real airplane deteriorating outside like this. It's win for everyone!
JohnB wrote:
I'm too shocked that people outside the U.S. appreciate what our forefathers did 75 years ago....
I assume you've never been to Normandy or Bastogne, then. In each place, it's very clear that the locals still very much remember what the allies did for them (even if it is for tourist dollars in some cases, I'd suspect). A pal of mine who was in the (modern, not WW2-era) 101st Airborne at the time couldn't buy his own drinks in Bastogne when he went there.
JohnB wrote:
....not to mention the fact that they...unlike many in this country...aren't turned off by the military force required or "offended" (to use the words of a WIX-er in a recent thread) by the violence it took to repel foreign invaders.
I wrote the offended word, as I know several people who think that way (not that I agree with them, being a veteran myself). Two of them even feel that violence in Europe wasn't justified even to end the Holocaust. :shock: How can you reason with someone who thinks like that? I'm quite sure that many elderly people with faded numbers tattooed on their arms would generally say differently.

_________________
Life member, 91st BG Memorial Association
Owner, 1944 Willys MB #366014
Former REMF (US Army, O3)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:21 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:10 pm
Posts: 3185
Location: New York
My sense is that, around the world, people have a very good sense of what happened in the Second World War, and are taking a more rational, educated, dispassionate view of it all the time. This is true among our erstwhile allies, erstwhile enemies, and most recently within countries where the historical narrative up until recently has been under tight central control, including China.

That does not necessarily translate into automatic support or gratitude for the military exploits of any country, nor should it.

If anything, American attitudes lag a bit behind some of the rest of the world in terms of realistic appraisal of the war, and maybe this is the cause of some of the dissatisfaction among Americans that their cherished view of events is not always enthusiastically endorsed.

August


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:41 pm 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:11 pm
Posts: 1911
Location: Pacific Northwest USA, via North Florida
k5083 wrote:
If anything, American attitudes lag a bit behind some of the rest of the world in terms of realistic appraisal of the war, and maybe this is the cause of some of the dissatisfaction among Americans that their cherished view of events is not always enthusiastically endorsed.
Yeah, and more than anything, they have what I call a "One mindset" view of that (and any other) time. Everyone was 100% behind the war, we all rolled up our sleeves, etc.
I was on a tour of Normandy with other Americans in May and none of them but myself, my wife and the guide had any idea a lot of GIs were drafted. They also had no idea that the war wasn't very well received back home (especially by 1944 when the draft classifications were slackened and formerly-4F types were being called up as well as the rationing).
In no timeframe will you find a single mindset on anything.
This is the same thinking that today leads people to think the US Civil War was fought over one single issue which dominated every thought, action and deed of those who fought in it.
Reality is molded by human behavior, which has almost limitless amounts of random activity.

_________________
Life member, 91st BG Memorial Association
Owner, 1944 Willys MB #366014
Former REMF (US Army, O3)


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot] and 70 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group