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Sadly, I believe one of the victims is from the same family restoring the Soplata TBM and the Columbine II Connie in Virginia..
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I didn't realize there was still DC-3's flying passengers in the lower 48.

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I didn't realize there was still DC-3's flying passengers in the lower 48.

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I don't believe it was a commercial flight.
It was also a turbine conversion.

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Condolences to the family and friends of those who were lost, and wishes for a full and speedy recovery to those who were injured.

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It was also a turbine conversion.

Something the "Official", an Assistant Secretary of State (and ex-Marine fighter pilot) showing he was clueless to any modern upgrades when commenting about the frailties of 75 year old "antique aircraft". "When things are that old they tend to break."

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Looks like N467KS.

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I didn't realize there was still DC-3's flying passengers in the lower 48.

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I don't believe it was a commercial flight.
It was also a turbine conversion.


I know she wasn't carrying passengers on this flight, but she did in the past, right ?
To pretty to just be a cargo ship...

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I took your comment to mean you were referring to a scheduled commercial flight.

After all, it's no secret that DC-3s, including several warbirds and private examples, routinely carry passengers....some even sell rides.
I would expect any multi million dollar Brasler conversion also carries passengers. I don't know if this was a Brasler of some other, less comprehensive, turbine conversion.

As far as the apparently clueless colonel media "expert" hired by ABC, he sounds like some of the military pilots I knew...totally uninterested in vintage, warbird or private types.
If they not getting paid to fly it, they ignore it.

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Its odd how the cockpit has taken all the damage. I'd be intetested to know the trajectory and final impact parameters, seems weird the way it sits. They sure were tough airplanes.

By the was, it wasn't a Basler BT67, it was by a different turbine conversion company by name of Preferred Turbine 3. Im not sure to what extent they refurbish as compared to Basler.


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The article did say it went through a telephone pole and trees. Those are not kind to nose sections. But, the DC-3's are tough birds.

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"It was a great airplane, and there are thousands still flying in remote parts of the world, but it is an antique," Ganyard said.

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The Colonel blew it. The age of the aircraft had nothing to do with it going down. Most likely the much newer engines and props and systems will be the culprit, not the airframe.
My condolences to the families. Much will be learned from the NTSB report.The pilots were highly skilled, experienced and knowledgeable.


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The FAA and NTSB each said no investigators immediately would inspect the crash site because of the record-long government shutdown. The NTSB added that it would look into the incident once the government reopens.

"The majority of the National Transportation Safety Board's employees are currently furloughed and will not be able to respond to major accidents, as well as other accidents where specific risks to transportation safety exists unless there's a specific risk involved that could result in imminent loss of life," the NTSB said in a statement.


So is anyone inspecting the wreckage or will it just sit there until the shut down ends?


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The Colonel blew it. The age of the aircraft had nothing to do with it going down. Most likely the much newer engines and props and systems will be the culprit, not the airframe.
My condolences to the families. Much will be learned from the NTSB report.The pilots were highly skilled, experienced and knowledgeable.

Yup, forgot to mention, "was reported this plane was en route to Akron-Canton Airport for engine testing" so apparently it already had issues with the engines. RIP to the pilots and condolences to their friends and families.

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