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 Post subject: Re: P-51D "HEL-ETER"
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That I don't fully recall. He and his brother do have a large stable of aircraft - B-25J, F-82E, Albatross, SNJ, L-13, L-5, L-1 (the full Stinson L-bird trifecta!), O-47 (complete, future restoration project), French Storch (the one that Jerry Yagen sold, and which Pat has been restoring to original stock French configuration/markings), a P-51H (project), and a few others, such as a Bellanca 31-55A (complete, but uncovered) and L-14 and L-15 projects. Its been great to see the L-1 out and about at a couple flying events in Minnesota already this year.


John, the P-51H project you mentioned, is that one one that came out of Red Oak, Texas by chance? Thank you for your time.

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 Post subject: Re: P-51D "HEL-ETER"
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Lynn Allen wrote:
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That I don't fully recall. He and his brother do have a large stable of aircraft - B-25J, F-82E, Albatross, SNJ, L-13, L-5, L-1 (the full Stinson L-bird trifecta!), O-47 (complete, future restoration project), French Storch (the one that Jerry Yagen sold, and which Pat has been restoring to original stock French configuration/markings), a P-51H (project), and a few others, such as a Bellanca 31-55A (complete, but uncovered) and L-14 and L-15 projects. Its been great to see the L-1 out and about at a couple flying events in Minnesota already this year.


John, the P-51H project you mentioned, is that one one that came out of Red Oak, Texas by chance? Thank you for your time.

Lynn

I was thinking it was the old "H-in-a- box" project that was in Mike Coutches garage for 40+yrs. pop2

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 Post subject: Re: P-51D "HEL-ETER"
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The H-model is 44-64375, which had previously been in Oregon with James Parks. Pat Harker acquired it about 8 years ago now.

Lon, the H that you’re thinking of is still owned by the Coutches family. I’ve heard that it is mostly an assembly job required to get it flying.


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 Post subject: Re: P-51D "HEL-ETER"
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Lynn and Lon...just to keep the identities straight:

http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/survivors/P-51H



Lynn, I really haven't searched for the current owner of the "Red Oak" survivors. Former owner Ken Williams posted (WIX link below) way back in 2011. Might he respond to a pm? Happy hunting!

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 Post subject: Re: P-51D "HEL-ETER"
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Why abandon its best known history for history that doesn't even apply to it. I'd have rather seen it done in Swedish air force (1947), or Nicaraguan colors (1955) or even El Salvadorian colors (1969) or just keep it as Ridge Runner III (Wich it still wasn't but is best known as.) All this does is screw up history. Its not Hel-Eter, its wannabe Hel-Eter. Not to mention making it a TF. Fail on so many levels.

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Why abandon its best known history for history that doesn't even apply to it. I'd have rather seen it done in Swedish air force (1947), or Nicaraguan colors (1955) or even El Salvadorian colors (1969) or just keep it as Ridge Runner III (Wich it still wasn't but is best known as.) All this does is screw up history. Its not Hel-Eter, its wannabe Hel-Eter. Not to mention making it a TF. Fail on so many levels.

Will


I agree totally. Particularly with an airframe that has a proven combat record. But he who pays the bills makes the decisions.


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