marine air wrote:
Thanks and very informative. Question for you David; I know in formation flying they will ask only the lead to keep his XPonder on and the other aircraft to put theirs on standy. ALso, he is the only one communicating with ATC or in this case, Airboss. So, as it pertains to ADSB, do the individual participating aircraft keep their ADSB on or are they turned off for the airshow?
You can check yourself here, if not aware
posting.php?mode=quote&f=3&p=648916Not sure how well this link will work if you are not a subscriber, and will for sure have to play around with settings.
Texas Raiders shows up [apparently taxiing] around 15:17Z, takes off around 15:27 Orbits to the south under 2,000 ft, lands around 15.51, I presume this was a customer flight, off line at 15:57.
Other aircraft show up in this time frame, including P-51 and B-25 and B-24 shortly after TR lands. Back online at 16:23 taxiing, takes off again at 16:29 after B-24 lands. Flies a different and longer orbit, landing at 16:53. Around 1700 numerous aircraft are making obvious show passes, TR back online at 17:12., and back up in the air at 17:15 along with 5 T6, a P-51 and one listed as VALI, whatever that is. TR orbits again to the south while the single seaters do numerous show passes, and appears to do a flyby at 17:31 and another at 17:36. Forms up with 4 T-6 as the B-24 takes off at 17:46, they orbit and do a flyby.
At this point another aircraft is in the mix but has no type or callsign attached. TR lands at 17:57 along with a P-51, offline at 18:03.
[Didn't plan on doing this and I know no one asked, gotta go but I'll try to retrace the last moments later]
Ok lets try to finish this.
Somewhat of a lull while the next acts get worked up, including more T-6's and a DC-3. Big lull, 18:32 and 3 Beech 18's and the DC-3 are making multiple passes, all are on the ground by 18:46.
B-25 takes off around 19:06, B-24 taxiing and takes off shortly thereafter, with an unidentified aircraft. All 3 do passes while a Mustang prepares for takeoff. P-63 shows up for the first time around 19:13.
[B-24 and B-25 along with 2 unidentified aircraft appear to be doing formation passes, which may answer the question if all in a formation transpond]
The 2 Mustangs and the P-63 are also in formation and each individually showing up as they do their show passes. At 19:30 the 2 Mustangs are orbiting to the north, the B-25 and 24 along with an unidentified aircraft are orbiting to the south, and I lost track of the P-63, must have either landed and I didn't notice or is having transponder issues.
Ok I looked back at the data and this is weird, at 19:22 the P-63 transponder stops, might be the time of the crash [showing an altitude of 600 ft]. Thing is, the data never does show TR getting back in the air, never saw it again after it landed at 17:57. The other aircraft in the air when the P-63 data stopped orbited around for a while then landed at an alternate field to the southwest. So I am going to see if I can figure this out, I know the ADSB feed showed both aircraft right up until impact, but for whatever reason is not showing it on replay.
Welp, can't figure out why the B-17 doesn't show, check around the 13:00 mark of this for an ADSB overlay of the incident if interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C342dfNPCyg