A Forum for those interest in vintage NON-military aircraft
Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:36 pm
Dang mudge. I did not realize you live in WV. Huh! and all this time I thought you lived out west!

Well we are neighbores and didnt even know it!
Good luck with the medical Mudge.
Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:38 pm
keeping fingers crossed for a good medical, Mudge,,,,,and the you will be able to start again !!!!!
Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:43 pm
LadyO2Pilot wrote:keeping fingers crossed for a good medical, Mudge,,,,,and the you will be able to start again !!!!!
I think mudge is working towards one day flying a P-38.
Hope your going to make it to Genny this year mudge. If you dont come we wont be able to have a face to face chat about the abilites of the P-38 over any other fighter. And well I'll be sad.
Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:10 pm
Nathan wrote:Hope your going to make it to Genny this year mudge. If you dont come we wont be able to have a face to face chat about the abilites of the P-38 over any other fighter. And well I'll be sad.

Already got our motel reservations. Are there normally advance ticket sales?
Mudge the prepared
Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:35 pm
Ooooo...shiny!
I saw a report on one of the news channels the other day about a girl with no arms who just got her private ticket. She was flying an Ercoupe, but using her feet on the wheel. Kinda bass-akwards from the original intent of the control set-up, but it gave her a chance to fly!
SN
Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:40 pm
As strange as landing in a crab was, I found myself baffled by taxiing and stopping an Ercoupe. How I didn't wind up in the weeds or hitting something is beyond me.
If I recall correctly, (it's been almost 30 years) the one I flew had a brake pedal on the right where one would find the gas pedal in a car. And steering on the ground with the yoke.....sigh.
Steve
Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:38 pm
Not all 'Coupes have no rudder pedals.
Some have been retro fitted with 'em to bring them more into the main stream.
Great little airplane.
Jerry
Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:38 pm
Not just for lazy or crazy people. We had a man in Denver, who used a wheelchair and who owned and flew a Aircoupe or Ercoupe. Great guy , one of the managers at DIA. It would be a great plane for anyone that does not have use of their legs. That photo is gorgeous. A Swift is another one that looks good shiny.
There are programs in Colorado to provide skiing for vets who have lost a limb or the use of some. It is very active, and some of these guys are really the go for it types, they are a bit like projectiles going down the hill in sit skis, which are like sleds. I have seen them take some rib shaking falls and just go for more. A CFI with an Aircoupe could do this for flying.
I saw the news story on the lady who flew the Aircoupe with only her feet. Every once in awhile one can get to thinking that you are pretty good at something, then you see someone like that. I don't care if you are Wagstaff or Yeager, someone like that is in another dimension. I bet it is an eye opener and jaw dropper when she calls up a new CFI for a biennial or an instrument currency check! Thanks to the FAA for seeing a way to let the lady prove that she can fly rather than finding ways to exclude her.
Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:24 am
One based here in Victoria at Tyabb.
Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:17 am
Mudge wrote:Back in the day...When I was learning to fly, my instructor made me fly from Martinsburg, WV to Winchester, VA using only rudder pedals, throttle, and trim. I thought it was jolly good fun, actually.
That's great, Mudge! It sounds like your instructor was actually making you work, what excellent training! When I got my multi-engine rating in big airplanes, during training in the simulator, my instructor used a similar technique. He taught me how to deal with a V1 cut (basically loss of an engine close to rotation speed past the abort speed) using only the rudders and pitch, with NO ailerons. If you can keep the aircraft straight with all that assymetric thrust, then you've mastered using the rudder. I'm sure there are smaller twins/multi's where you HAVE to use aileron with the loss of an engine, but on big jets, they're not necessary for the most part. It was great training!
Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:30 am
Bill Greenwood wrote:Not just for lazy or crazy people. We had a man in Denver, who used a wheelchair and who owned and flew a Aircoupe or Ercoupe. Great guy , one of the managers at DIA. It would be a great plane for anyone that does not have use of their legs. That photo is gorgeous. A Swift is another one that looks good shiny.
There are programs in Colorado to provide skiing for vets who have lost a limb or the use of some. It is very active, and some of these guys are really the go for it types, they are a bit like projectiles going down the hill in sit skis, which are like sleds. I have seen them take some rib shaking falls and just go for more. A CFI with an Aircoupe could do this for flying.
I saw the news story on the lady who flew the Aircoupe with only her feet. Every once in awhile one can get to thinking that you are pretty good at something, then you see someone like that. I don't care if you are Wagstaff or Yeager, someone like that is in another dimension. I bet it is an eye opener and jaw dropper when she calls up a new CFI for a biennial or an instrument currency check! Thanks to the FAA for seeing a way to let the lady prove that she can fly rather than finding ways to exclude her.
Great story, Bill! I love hearing stories about how physically challenged people can master flying an airplane. You're right, someone who can conquer that kind of challenge has my utmost respect and admiration. I remember way back, probably in the 80's or so, I saw a feature on television on the news or some news magazine format show where they did a story on a paralyzed pilot. The guy was paralyzed from the waist down and couldn't use his legs. IIRC, he was flying a specially modified Christen Eagle. Somehow, they hooked up the rudder pedals to a separate stick so he could use his left hand to control the rudders. It was a pretty amazing story and awe-inspiring! Anybody know who that was or have any more info on it?
Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:07 am
Mudge wrote:Nathan wrote:Hope your going to make it to Genny this year mudge. If you dont come we wont be able to have a face to face chat about the abilites of the P-38 over any other fighter. And well I'll be sad.

Already got our motel reservations. Are there normally advance ticket sales?
Mudge the prepared

There is a Grocery chain in New York State that sell advance tickets for Geneseo. The Stores are called Wegmens. I think Geneseo tickets are $2-3 dollars cheaper if you get them there.
Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:00 pm
LadyO2Pilot wrote:Nice airplane, but they're for lazy people.

Try landing one in a 90 degree 25kt crosswind.,..and then tell me it's for lazy people....LOL

But you're probably right....wont get you very far in "warbirds"....but I already had tail wheel endorsement and some hours in those tail dragger things before flying this little itty bitty,
Good to remember to tuck your foot under the brake pedal so you don't land with the brakes locked attempting to straighten it.............fortunately wet grass has the same coefficient of friction as.................
Tom-
Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:32 pm
GilT wrote:LadyO2Pilot wrote:Nice airplane, but they're for lazy people.

Try landing one in a 90 degree 25kt crosswind.,..and then tell me it's for lazy people....LOL

But you're probably right....wont get you very far in "warbirds"....but I already had tail wheel endorsement and some hours in those tail dragger things before flying this little itty bitty,
Good to remember to tuck your foot under the brake pedal so you don't land with the brakes locked attempting to straighten it.............fortunately wet grass has the same coefficient of friction as.................
Tom-
Good hint for those flying em.........I no longer fly the Lil Yellow Rose and it was one of the CAF planes that was on the selling block with Courtesy. It was my understanding it sold but not sure where it went. Maybe if Gary is still monitorng he could let us
(well me, the mother hen...LOL) know.
Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:54 am
I haven't given up on you! I know you can do it, that's all.
I have been struggling into the world of jets, thought I knew how to fly and now I get my feelings hurt on a regular basis.
Hey Mudge maybewe need a hot air balloon. Only requires understanding concept of going up and down!
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