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Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:24 pm
by Xray
Appears to have crashed short of the runway, possibly a large body of water on the horizon. Appears to be a medium sized aircraft. Doesn't look like there are any signs of scorching or explosion.
Bunker like complexes in the vicinity might suggest a military installation.



Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 3:28 pm
by Zac Yates
A Japanese Neptune, perhaps?
Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:30 am
by quemerford
KiwiZac wrote:A Japanese Neptune, perhaps?
I'd agree.
Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:33 pm
by Xray
Captured ?
Trees sure do not look native to south pacific, is a US Navy photo though

Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:06 pm
by quemerford
Strange: looks like an LJ tail code (VP-23) and I'd stick by P2V, so maybe USN rather than JASDF/JMSDF?
Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:38 pm
by Xray
If you can pick up a tail code, your eyeballs are a whole lot better than mine ... Does appear to be a possible meatball on the fuselage though, hard to tell.
Judging by the trees which appear to be pine/evergreens, almost certainly a stateside location, though the possibility exists that it was a captured IJ aircraft being test flown.
Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:49 pm
by quemerford
Xray wrote:If you can pick up a tail code, your eyeballs are a whole lot better than mine ... Does appear to be a possible meatball on the fuselage though, hard to tell.
Judging by the trees which appear to be pine/evergreens, almost certainly a stateside location, though the possibility exists that it was a captured IJ aircraft being test flown.
Captured P2V?
Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:03 pm
by Xray
Ok, blown up further it looks almost for sure a meatball and a tail code possibly L1, serial is too garbled to make out

Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:11 pm
by quemerford
I think all Japanese Neptunes were dark sea grey, so I'd stick with a USN P-2/P2V rather than anything else.
Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:26 pm
by Xray
I think you guys are right P2V, you can see where the tail cone sheered off.
Can't see what else that would be but a meatball though, right in the position it should be. On the other hand, looks like a possible US emblem on one of the wings.

Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:37 pm
by Xray
Was posting this from another non aviation forum [metal detecting of all things], at that time there were few replies.
Looks like they have it solved now.
On December 3rd, 1967 a VP-23 P2V Aircraft (BUNO: 148350 - LG-4 - Crew-11) crashed in adverse weather off the end of the Otis AFB, Falmouth, Mass., runway. The crew egressed safely, but the aircraft was totally consumed by fire. SOURCE: 142 DICTIONARY OF AMERICAN NAVAL AVIATION SQUADRONS–Volume 2 (Third VP-23)
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/ ... crash.html[may need account to view, not sure]
Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:53 pm
by Zac Yates
What I thought was the fuselage "meatball" may be damage.
As soon as I saw it I thought Marauder or Neptune, then Neptune simply based on the tail. Great work, guys!
Re: Any idea what crash site this is ?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:13 pm
by Xray
True, meatball probably damage, does not look perfectly round.