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What to do with anti-aviation activists?
Drop them out of a bomb bay at altitude 41%  41%  [ 9 ]
Use them to chock the wheels on a B-29 during full-power engine testing 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Stuff them in the cowls to keep the engines warm between low-altitude training flights over complainer's houses 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Pitot tube covers 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
Live-fire bombing targets 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Chop 'em up to fill potholes in the taxiway 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Use them as scarecrows to reduce birdstrikes 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Arresting cable weights 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Drive them across minefields ahead of our troops 18%  18%  [ 4 ]
Glue them to videocameras containing tapes of Kim Jong Il's picture being used as toilet paper and drop them into North Korea 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
Tugboat hull bumpers 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Something else that's completely unprintable, even in this company 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
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I used the "Contact Us" function to raise concern about the use of Yankee Lady in their posturing. Here was my response. I tried to be as respectul as possible:

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To whom it may concern,
Would you please consider removing the image of the Yankee Air Museum's B-25, "Yankee Lady," from your web site. The Yankee Air Museum has nothing to do with this fight over Falcon Field. The Yankee Air Museum works diligently to honor the Veterans of WWII with their restored historical aircraft.
I would hate for the Yankee Air Musem to be negatively impacted by this very polarizing debate taking place thousands of miles from their home base.
May I suggest replacing this image with an historical image of the field to better advertise your stance to return the field to a more "homely" feel.
With respect,
Mark Popejoy


Hope it works.
Regards,
Mark

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Next, as a retired lawyer....... Its called MOVING TO THE NUSIANCE....... If you move there you know there is an airport there and you can't complain. Thats how it goes. They really don't have a legal leg to stand on.


Until recently, this hasn't held much sway in court. The lawyers "representing" the communities shop judges and find one who will ignore this particular item and rule in favor of the "community". This is the exact reason why fighting these efforts is so important because one doesn't know when the lawyers for the "community" are simply unscrupulous thugs not deserving of the position they hold who are simply looking for a big payout and a headline and not upholding the laws and ethics they are supposed to.


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ROBBIE R-
Thank you fro bringing a voice of common sense and moderation to what was looking like a Hyde Park SOAPBOX show-and Dan Jones, you somehow forgot 'nuke the gay whales for Jesus' line from your overpressure event.
Heres hoping everyones overpressure relief valves have sucessfully reseated and/or the too many oat sodas have worn off-


I thought about the nuclear option, but decided sarcastic reasoning might be better received! Did they post it yet?

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Thanks all. I certainly agree, MOST situations in deed require being nice, although in our local situation, many of the anti-airport folks have absolutely no good intentions (or morals, or any kind of restraint against personal threats and violent actions) whatsoever. Nobody ever believes us when we tell the stories, until they experience it for themselves. Some of our local activists have even gotten on the fed's terror watch list for the crap they've done, and this same group of folks fully control the town council where the airport is located... and these efforts have gone on for 20 years now, and trying to "play nice" during that time has only dramatically deepened the harm to the local aviation community at every step. These folks don't WANT any compromise despite what they claim, their ONLY true goal is to destroy the airport, aviation, and everyone associated with flying. So yes, I'm a bit paranoid about these groups and their members, and have no assumption of anything but bad motives from these types... and have rarely seen anything to indicate otherwise. YMMV!

Anyway, my question's been answered, and I know someone at the Yankee Air Museum so I'll alert them and leave it up to them to do something, or not. Being the shot is an overhead one, it was surely air-to-air which says the owner of it probably was a pilot or enthusiast and wouldn't have given permission tot his group to use the image, but finding out who took it might be impossible. Anyway, thanks all!


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The Inspector wrote:
ROBBIE R-
Thank you fro bringing a voice of common sense and moderation to what was looking like a Hyde Park SOAPBOX show-and Dan Jones, you somehow forgot 'nuke the gay whales for Jesus' line from your overpressure event.
Heres hoping everyones overpressure relief valves have sucessfully reseated and/or the too many oat sodas have worn off-


Jeez, you guys got NO sensayuma :roll: :wink: :D


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J. Armstrong wrote:
The Inspector wrote:
ROBBIE R-
Thank you fro bringing a voice of common sense and moderation to what was looking like a Hyde Park SOAPBOX show-and Dan Jones, you somehow forgot 'nuke the gay whales for Jesus' line from your overpressure event.
Heres hoping everyones overpressure relief valves have sucessfully reseated and/or the too many oat sodas have worn off-


Jeez, you guys got NO sensayuma :roll: :wink: :D


Oh, I did shoot a note to the AOPA...

Robbie


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Dan Jones wrote:
Sounds like a bunch of flag-burnin', splay toed, long-haired, dope smokin', tree-huggin', bunny humpin' hippies and Commies!!


There is something else to consider. Over the past fifty years or so, numerous general aviation aiports have been turned into housing tracts and commercial sites. Who benefited? Real estate developers.

It's easy to see why developers lust after airports. After all, airports are level and clear. A certain amount of infrastructure is already in place. If you are a real estate developer, you can easily get your hands on that nice level land. Just start spreading malicious rumors about those "crazy reckless pilots flying dangerous little airplanes RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOMES AND SCHOOLS!" Fan the flames of fear, and pretty soon you'll have an anti-aviation mob on your hands. In short order, the local government will close the airport, and the land is yours for peanuts.

Sure, there is a chance that "hippies and Commies" are behind this. But there is a better chance the anti-aviation fears are organized and hyped by conservative, short-haired, suit-wearing, profit-seeking businessmen who are certainly not averse to throwing a bunch of pilots under the bus. Remember the line from the film All The President's Men: "Follow The Money."

If you think I'm being unfair - count up the number of ex-airports in your state that are now housing tracts or shopping malls and ask yourself, "Who profited?"

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