I was not surprised to find out that Boeing was going to do more then buy Vought and straighten up their mess. I'm not mad at the company as many people are. I was surprised to find out that our senators, governor and union were strung along until the S.C. government made Boeing an offer they couldn't refuse. Altho I'm sure Boeing would have built the second line there even if no offer was made. Pretty smart if you ask me. Boeing will (in my estimation) have a HUGE HUGE learning curve to get past in order to get the 87's out the door. They will have the Everett lines to look to for guidance, but since it's still a monkey f-ing a greased football I don't see how much help they can provide? Now I'm not totally sold on the union nor am I sold on the words of Boeing, I listen to both sides and make my own decisions I understand its a business and we are all here to make money and build the highest quality safest airplanes in the world. But I see no reason to lie about your intentions. I am not one to buy into union propaganda but if it were not for the words of our state senators and governor I would never believed what the union claimed! This is all an opinion.
From the union.
Statement of District President Tom Wroblewski in Response to Second 787 Line Announcement
October 28, 2009 - "Boeing has betrayed our loyalty once again, walking away from our discussions just like they walked away from Seattle eight years ago to move to Chicago.
We tried very hard to reach an extended agreement with Boeing. We listened closely to what executives said, and suggested ideas to meet their needs. We offered concrete, real-world solutions.
But I can tell you now, no matter what Boeing says or implies, the truth is this: We did offer Boeing a 10-year contract, and even offered to go longer than that. And when we did, they seemed stunned, and stopped talking.
It was obvious to me that Boeing wasn't really interested in working with us. They didn't take our proposals seriously and they never offered any proposals of their own. Most of the time, they didn't even take notes.
It's now clear that Boeing was only using our talks as a smoke screen, and as a bargaining chip to extort a bigger tax handout from South Carolina.
I haven't reported this before -- not to our members and certainly not to the media -- because Boeing had asked for confidential talks. My word means something, so I said nothing, even while the company was leaking half-truths to reporters.
When our team asked Boeing if 10 years was going to be enough for them, they didn't respond. And when I asked them to confirm that the extended contract would secure the second 787 line for Washington state, their reply was only: "Well, it would be helpful." But they would not commit to anything.
Still, we tried to get a deal, because I know that's what our members and our community wanted. To do that, we were willing to discuss any issue to get a deal that we could recommend to our members. We floated ideas on health care costs, wages, pensions and lump sums.
None of this mattered to Boeing. They didn't want solutions, but only a scapegoat.
Our seven-week strike last year is not the reason the 787 is already more than 120 weeks behind schedule.
Instead of investing in our shared future and a highly talented workforce in a region ideally suited for aerospace, Boeing has decided to double-down on its failed 787 strategy and place an ill-advised, billion-dollar bet on a strategy that's a proven loser."
Our governor and senators said the same thing on live TV!
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