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Does anyone know of a web site, book or other source listing the aircraft and their id?? I can get a listing but not their identification.

bill word

Bill,

I might be able to help you with that. I do work with them. If you send me a email ( ericatpw@yahoo.com ) with the info you want, I can get it for you.

Eric Miller
Project Warbird

http://www.aerospacemuseum.org/

Give it a go...

Lynn

Thanks Lynn, but the Museum site lists the aircraft but does not identify them with serial, manufacturer or n-numbers.
bill word

I just checked my notes. I don't have the serials either.

Mike

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Here is a cut and paste from the 4th Edition of 'USA Military Out of Service' which is just going to the printers:

Outside
60-6933 Lockheed A-12 Jun91 Feb07
135763 Convair YF2Y-1 Oct85 Feb07
Inside
142905 NP/302 Douglas A-4B VA-212 Oct85 Feb07
(43-15912) 86 Douglas C-47A cockpit 92 Feb07
A-7123 6-F-14 Boeing FB-5 25Jan05 Feb07
30508 13 Grumman F4F-4 11828 Jun98 Feb07
42874 21 Grumman F6F-3 Oct85 Feb07
157267 NG/112 McD F-4S VF-96 Sep87 Feb07
77-22778 Bell AH-1E Jul99 Feb07
(05414) 398 Boeing N2S-3 (N1301M) 79 Feb07
P-18723 67 Curtiss P-40E ex RCAF 1064, AK979 (NX40FT) 11Nov86 Feb07
17569 7 NA P-51D 44-73683 (NL5551D) Apr00 Feb07
48406 Consolidated PBY-5A (N5590V) 6Aug88 Feb07
27-150 Consolidated PT-1 (N1926M) Mar93 Feb07
41-20692 692 Ryan PT-22 N47843 Jun82 Apr06
Ryan PT-22 N46795 Feb06 Feb07
06900 24 Douglas SBD-4 Feb94 Feb07
54-1619 Ryan X-13A Oct85 Feb07
(42-94126) Waco YKS-7 NC17713 83 Feb07
------- Albatros DVa replica (N3767A) Sep00 Feb07
12910 FU-910 Canadair Sabre 5 ex RCAF 23310 84 Feb07
38262 Curtiss JN-4D A-996 (N5391) Jul78 Feb07
------- Fokker DR 1 replica Sep00 Feb07
246/16 Fokker E III replica 26Aug97 Feb07
------- <<+- Messerschmitt Bf109G-4 replica 83 Feb07
70201 Mikoyan MiG-15bis ex China, c/n 137085 Dec85 Feb07
3020 Mikoyan MiG-17F ex Egypt, N Vietnamese marks Oct92 Feb07
(4323) E-143 Mitsubishi A6M7 CHK or 23183? Apr84 Feb07
N1486 Nieuport 11 replica Nov82 Feb07
6169 6 Nieuport 28C-1 replica Jun02 Feb07
------- Sopwith Pup replica Oct05 Oct06
B9916 SPAD VIIc1 Dec81 Feb07
A4358 Thomas Morse S.4C SC34544 Dec81 Oct06
SL574 MD-T VS Spitfire LF.XVIe Jul89 Feb07
There is a restoration area in the basement, not open to the public. It contains:
Boeing P-26 replica construction 00 Feb07

Thanks Andy,

This is what I wanted.

bill word

I visited the San Dieg Air & Space Museum on April 25th and the Gillespie Field Annex on April 27th 2007. Based on that visit, earlier replires to this posting and other research, the following is a list I compiled of the aircraft there. If anyone has additions, corrections or comments please let me know so I can update this list and my photo ids.

bill word


BALBOA PARK:

Aeronca C-3 "Collegian" (N3094)
Albatros DVa (AA106)(N3767A)(Reproduction)
Beachey "Little Looper" (Reproduction)
Bell AH-1E "Cobra" (USA 0-22778)
Bleriot XI
Boeing FB-5 (6-F-14)(A7123)
Boeing P-26A "Peashooter" (Reproduction)
Boeing/Stearman N2S-3 (B75N1) "Yellow Peril/Kaydet" (75-6586)(USN 05414)(N1301M)
Bowlus SP-1 "Albatross" Sailplane (493)(Reproduction)
Canadair CL-13A Mk 5 "Sabre" ("Beauteous Butch II") (1100)(RCAF 23310)(Painted as USAF North American F-86F USAF 51-2910)
Cayley Glider (Reproduction)
Chanute Glider (Reproduction)
Consolidated PT-1 "Trusty" (USAAS 27-150)(430th Pursuit Squadron, Richards Field, MO)
Consolidated PBY-5A "Catalina" (1768)(USN 48406)(N5590V)
Convair YF2Y-1 "Sea Dart" (USN 135763)
Coward, Changa, Montijo "Wee Bee" (Painted as NX90840)(Replica)
Curtiss "Little Looper" (Lincoln Beachey) (N5599N)(Reproduction)
Curtiss A-1 "Triad" (Reproduction)
Curtiss JN-4D "Jenny" (396)(N5391)
Curtiss B-1 "Robin" (329)(NC9265)
Curtiss P-40D "Kittyhawk I" (P-18723)(RAF AK979)(RCAF 1064)(N40FT) (Painted as AVG Flying Tiger)
Deperdussin 1911 Type Militaire
Douglas A-4B (A4D-2) "Skyhawk" (11967)(USN 142905)(VA-212 "Rampant Raiders")(NP on tail)
Douglas C-47A "Skytrain" (20378)(USAAF 43-15912)(Nose/Cockpit Section)
Douglas SBD-4 "Dauntless" (1775)(USN 06900)(Painted as VB-16, USS Lexington)
Fleet Model 2 C600M
Fokker Dr I 477/18 "Driedecker/Triplane" (Reproduction)
Fokker E III 246/16 "Eindecker" (Reproduction)
Ford 5-A%-B "Trimotor"
Grumman F4F-4 "Wildcat" (USN 11828)(13 on side)
Grumman F6F-3 "Hellcat" (A-4140)(USN 42874)
Leonardo Da Vinci Ornithopter (Mock-up)
Lilienthal Glider (Reproduction)
Lincoln-Standard J-1 Biplane (1598)(2826D)
Link Trainer
Lockheed A-12 "Blackbird" (CIA 60-6933)
Mahony-Ryan B-5 "Brougham" (The Ecuador) (NC731M)
McDonnell Douglas F-4S "Phantom II" (USN 157267)(Painted as USN F-4J VF 96 "Fighting Falcons", USS Constellation when flown by Lt Randy
Cunningham in Vietnam)
Messerschmitt Bf 109G-14 (Mock-up)
Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-15bis/J-2 "Fagot B" (137085)(Chinese Navy)(Painted as Chinese AF 70201)
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17F "Fresco C" (Egyptian AF)(Painted as N Vietnamese AF 3026)
Mitsubishi A6M5-52 "Reisen('Zero Fighter')/Zeke" (4323)(Japanese Navy 23186)(Painted as E-143)onnett "Sonerai II" ("Miss B. Haven") (N169MB)(Race
69)
Montgomery "Evergreen" Glider
Nieuport II (102)(N1486)(Reproduction)
Nieuport N28C-1(AEF)(6 on side, 6169 on tail)
North American P-51D "Mustang" ("Bunnie/Miss Kentucky State") (122-402230)(USAAF 44-73683)(Painted as 332nd Fighter Group (Tuskegee Airmen)
Northrop Grumman RQ-4A "Global Hawk" (Model)
Piper J3F-50 "Cub" (3463)(NC333ED)
Pitts S-1S "Special" (10034)(N4HS)
Ryan NYP-3 ("Spirit of St. Louis") (NX211)(Reproduction)
Ryan PT-22 "Recruit" (1721)(USAAC 41-15692)(N46795)
Ryan STA (194)(NC17361)
Ryan M-1 (Pacific Air Transport - Survey Plane)
Ryan X-13A VTOL "Vertijet" (54-1619)
S.P.A.D. VIIc1 (B9916 on tail)
Sopwith "Pup" (Reproduction)
Supermarine LF Mk XVIe "Spitfire" (RAF SL721)(N721WK)
Thomas-Morse S-4B "Tommy" (SC34544)(USAAS A4358)
Wright 109 Glider (Reproduction)
Wright 1899 Kite (Reproduction)
Wright Glider 1901 (Reproduction)
Wright Glider 1902 (Reproduction)
Wright Biplane E-X Model ("Vin Fizz") (Calbraith Perry Rodgers)


GILLESPIE FIELD ANNEX:

Bee Aviation H-2 "Honey Bee" (1)(N90859)
Bell H-13D "Sioux" (0199)(USA 51-2461)
Chance Vought F-8J (F8U-2NE)(F-8E) "Crusader" (USN 150297)(VF-162 "Hunters", USS Ticonderoga)(AH on tail)
Consolidated Vultee P-4 (PB4Y-2)(P4Y-2) "Privateer) (USN 66304) (N2870G) (Hawkins & Powers Tanker 122)
Convair F-102A "Delta Dagger" (USAF 56-1268)
Douglas B-26C (A-26B, B-26B) "Invader" (27592)(USAF 44-34313) (N119DR)(19 on tail)
Forney F-1 "Aircoupe" (5619)(N7509C)
General Dynamics F-16N "Fighting Falcon" (3M-2)(USMC 163269)(United States Navy Fighter Weapons School)(Formerly F-16C 85-1370)
Granville Brothers "Gee Bee R-1" (Reproduction)
Grumman A-6E "Intruder" (I-688)(USMC 162195)(VX-5 "Vampires, China Lake)(XE on tail)rumman F-14A "Tomcat" (178)(USN 159631)((NG on tail, VW-9)
LTV A-7B "Corsair II" (B-194)(USN 154554)(USS Ranger)(NG on tail, CVW-9)
Hawker Siddeley AV-8A "Harrier Mk50" (712148)(USMC 159239)(VMA-542 "Flying Tigers, Cherry Point MAS)(WH on tail)
Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-21 "Fishbed" (9099)
Monnett "Sonerai II" ("Miss B. Haven") (N169MB)(Race 69)
Naval Aircraft Factory N3N "Yellow Peril" (USN)
North American F-86F "Sabre" ("The Paper Tiger/Heavens Above") (USAF 51-12958ietenpol PC1-1A "Aircamper" (N37680)
Primary Glider
Rearwin (Pigman Reed) 8135 "Cloudster" (829)(NC25553)
Ryan PT-22 "Recruit" (1901)(USAAC 41-20692)(N47843)
Shoestring (Mercury Air) (100)(N16V)(Race 16)
Stinson SM-8A "Detroiter Jr" (4251)(NC416Y)
Thomas-Morse S-4C "Tommy" (SC34544)(USAAS A4358)
Thorp T18 (Shum' Way To Fly") (435)(N48LS)
Waco YKS-7 (4625)(NC17713)
Williams-Cangie WC-1 "Sundancer" (N1AE)(Sport Biplane Class racer)(Race 1)

Hi Bill,



The Spitfire at San Diego is actually SL574, a different Mk.XVI.
SL721 is airworthy with Mike Potter in Canada.

Hope this is useful,

John

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John

I don't know what is there now,but I believe Spitfire MkXVI, SL721 used to be there. It was owned by Woodie Woods of Carefree, Az. (Phoenix) who I bought my MKIX from. His son Chris organized the Spit reunion in Scottsdale. Chris and I flew our planes together to Oshkosh which was great fun, but we never got to do much again. That plane is now owned by Mike Potter in Canada. The San Diego museum was not big, but really good and in a nice spot in Balboa Park. It may have moved since.

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Bill Greenwood
Spitfire N308WK

Thanks for the update on the Spitfire.

The main museum, primary restoration and display area is still in Balboa Park. The annex where they also restore, repair and display some aircraft is at Gillespie Field in El Cajon.
bill word

One of the planes listed is the Montgomery Glider. Not enough people know about John Montgomery who was a teenager growing up in San Diego. There is good evidence that this teenage kid with his little brother built and flew a controllable glider at the Otay Mesa area s e of town, before the Wrights, and the possibility that he may have flown a power plane even before the Wrights. It is well know that after the Wrights flew he had a good controllable power plane and made numereous flights near Santa Cruz, finally being lost in an accident there. I learned to fly in 1979 at Montgomery Field there.

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Bill Greenwood
Spitfire N308WK