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Are those C's? I need to learn my mustangs...

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Are those C's? I need to learn my mustangs...


The only difference in the B and C models is where they were made. The B's were made at the plant in Inglewood, CA and the C's were made in the Dallas (Grand Prairie), TX plant. That same plant is where Vought is now location.

I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I "think" the only way to tell the difference in a B or C is the serial number to be able to tell which plant it was made at.


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Are those C's? I need to learn my mustangs...


The only difference in the B and C models is where they were made. The B's were made at the plant in Inglewood, CA and the C's were made in the Dallas (Grand Prairie), TX plant. That same plant is where Vought is now location.

I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I "think" the only way to tell the difference in a B or C is the serial number to be able to tell which plant it was made at.


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thanks! Now I doesn't feel quite as dumb as I was a minute ago! :P

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Anymore of the Mustang group? That's neat photo showing the various models serving together. (assuming I'm correct in that I think I see at least 1 D model taxing.)


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Mustang spotting is fun. Mustang spotting is fun. Mustang spotting is...

P-51B and C are, for all intents and purposes, outwardly identical. Serials are only positive ID. However serial number placement can also be an indicator. Inglewood B's had 2" number spacing while the Dallas articles had 1". Same goes for P-51D's built at both places. This feature goes by the way side if serials were painted over or moved at squadron level.

Canopy shape/style is rather poor indicator, especially for British based P-51D's, as these switched canopies enough to the point that a particular type accociated with a place of manufacture is almost meaningless. for the record, there were certainly more than just a single "California" type and a single "Dallas" type. The NAA parts drawings indicate there were two different "California" types.

Does anyone have a clue as to why there appears to have been such a scramble to change canopies?? The first type seen on p-51D-5NA's had a relatively flat side compared to all later types, which were/are full blown (circular section when viewed from front/rear). I've always speculated that the swtching might have been for a few more precious degress of visual vista. Can anyone shed some real light?

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I believe you are referring to what is commonly called the "Malcolm hood" which was a modified canopy, initially used by the British, allowing extra visibility from the high-back mustangs. I think it was only used in the ETO though, and believe it was a field-mod. rather than factory standard.

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I believe you are referring to what is commonly called the "Malcolm hood" which was a modified canopy, initially used by the British, allowing extra visibility from the high-back mustangs. I think it was only used in the ETO though, and believe it was a field-mod. rather than factory standard.

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Nah ! Charlie - one of the Mustang gods out there - is referring to the different 'bubble canopies' installed in D- and K-models....

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