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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:01 am 
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Gang, There's a New Big Budget "KAMIKAZE" Film from Japan called "For Those We Love".
It looks pretty good & historically accurate...
It's main focus is on a Woman who runs a Japanese Diner near the Kamikaze Base. The Diner has several "Kamikaze" themed meals such as Tojo Tacos, Betty Burgers, Meatball Subs, Etc...

Seriously though, this looks pretty good... Has anyone seen it yet??

Here's some info on this movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imtQEMU9 ... re=related

Here's some INCREDIBLE Color Footage of real "KAMIKAZE" Attacks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIZRFt8YBpM

Here's another awesome "KAMIKAZE" Attack Film.
Beautiful, words can't describe some of the shocking scenes here... :shock:
Sure wish I was there to help out!! Would be a lifelong dream come true to see this ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qATP3BDg ... re=related

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WOW! Very sobering images.

I wonder if we will ever be able to admit that there were acts of courage on all sides, above and beyond. I can't imagine what it must have been like to have such devotion to your leader that you would sacrifice your life for them without a second thought. When you read books by the likes of Adolph Galland and Geunther Rall, it becomes clear that sacrifices were made by some on all sides of WW2.

I would be interested in seeing this movie.

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"Japan was a victim not the aggressor" Gimmee a f#$%'n break. That must be some history book. I would see this one, if the film is good and TRUTHFUL. Not what that blockhead reporter was saying.

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I think the reporter was mentioning that some critics are indeed concerned about the potential for revisionist history...

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Exactly Shep...

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like tears in the rain.
My father flew b-17s in WWII. growing up in the 60's we had a neighbor who was a gunner on the yorktown, and he shared this story with me. I will share it with you so it is NOT lost in the rain.
He was on a single mounted weapon with several others beside him, I think it was a .50 but I cant remember. They were under attack and the combat was furious as the Japanese had reached that point in time where they realized they had indeed awoken the sleeping tiger.
They were firing at multiple inbound aircraft and he told me it seemed like hours. The guy on the gun next to him had hit the wall and snapped. In the middle of the battle he looked at my neighbor and smiled and said "man its just to hot in here for me" and then he just jumped over the side of the ship, never to be seen again.
not a really inspirational story but I have never forgotten it, and now hopefully one of you young guys will carry this story on, and perhaps that is the best tribute of all.
we now return you to our regularly scheduled program.

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I hope the line in the report that said. "old aircraft were restored." wasn't lost on you. I'm really curious to know which aircraft, how many, and in what condition they are now.
I'm looking forward to seeing that movie.
(With english subtitles, of course. :shock:)

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DiggerWW2 wrote:
It's main focus is on a Woman who runs a Japanese Diner near...

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Not the Kamikaze pilot's reunion dinner?

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Not the Kamikaze pilot's reunion dinner?


Peter...I'm sure some here will think that's in poor taste.
Personally, I say "screw 'em". I think it's very funny. :D

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Mudge wrote:
Peter...I'm sure some here will think that's in poor taste.
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Mudge,

When I visited the Japanese POW camp at Sandakan in Borneo a few years back and saw the barbaric treatment of prisoners on the infamous death march...... I'm not too fussed about 'bad taste'.

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PeterA wrote:
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Peter...I'm sure some here will think that's in poor taste.
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Mudge,

When I visited the Japanese POW camp at Sandakan in Borneo a few years back and saw the barbaric treatment of prisoners on the infamous death march...... I'm not too fussed about 'bad taste'.

PeterA


Peter, I need to buy you a beer. :D

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"Japan was a victim not the aggressor" Gimmee a f#$%'n break. That must be some history book. I would see this one, if the film is good and TRUTHFUL. Not what that blockhead reporter was saying.

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Do y'all remember Glenn Frazier from Ken Burns' "The War"?
He was the Bataan Death March survivor they opened the
program with and his amazing story was woven throughout
the program. Today he had a book signing at Battleship
Park. I went over and help him a bit. bought another couple
of his books, bought lunch, and just talked between people
wanting a book. I've heard his stories before and read about
what happened and heard it from other survivors. It never
ceases to enrage me what was done to those men and how
little justice there was for the Japanese war criminals.

Japan presented as a victim? Just defending their country
from American agressors. Presenting the Japanese in bad taste?

Get AWAY from me......unless you want your ear packed
long and hard. God Bless Gen Tibbets, the men of the
509th, and all the guys who bought our freedom.


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I think that when the reported said, to show "It (JAPAN) was a victim and not the aggressor" he probably should have said and maybe meant to say "To show the Japanese people were victims of war, just like the Americans, Australians, etc, etc." To show that everyone in war is a victim, everyone loses, nobody wins.

I wouldn't mind seeing the movie if it gets released in Canada. The director sounds really good. I've always wanted to see war movies from the perspective of the other side.

The dreaded film "Pearl Harbour" was terrible and made the Japanese look like ruthless cavemen. I've always thought it would be thought provoking to see the attack on Pearl Harbour from the Japanese perspective. And I don't mean a movie glorifying the attack, but one simply showing the failures, the successes, the wins, the losses of that major point in history from the other side. I suppose something like "Letters from Iwo Jima."

Anyways, Thanks for posting the videos.

Cheers,

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I never could quite get what kind of fanatism leads a person to sacrifice his life to honor himself, his country and especially the Japanese to his emperor. I’m not talking about bravery, like most of allied troops did in all wars. Omaha beach is, for instance, one example. That is what I call the utmost bravery. I know this is a cultural thing and blah-blah-blah, but to volunteer to a mission you know will be your last one is, for me, pure stupidity. No wonder the Geneva Convention ever existed to allied POW in Japanese prison camps. If most of them honored who ever by committing Seppuku so why didn’t the soldiers they captured do the same. Since they didn’t, why treat them like human beings? Worst yet was what the Chinese people suffered in the hands of Japan, but that is another story…

And David, instead of Pearl Harbor, rent "Tora, Tora, Tora".


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