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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:54 pm 
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Just visited the Italian Air Force museum North of Roma last week and thought I'd share some pictures. Not the best quality of pictures as I'm still working with my camera.

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WOW :!: Really great photos for not thinking they were gonna be good :P
Thats the first time I've seen an ADF "football" on the inside of the canopy(P-51) :shock: It looks like it barely fits :!: Nice museum.


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Anyone know the mustang history?

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Anyone know the mustang history?


P-51D-25-NA 44-73451; assigned to 338th CCTS at Page Field, Fort Myers, FL; 2nd April 1945 a/c involved in training accident in FL (landing accident at Page Field), pilot: Lt. Hampton C. Barber; 23rd July 1945 a/c involved in training accident in FL (crash-belly-landing due to mechanical failure in flight, 5 miles W of Immakalee, FL), pilot: Lt. David M. Chojnacki; repaired and put into storage pending further use; assigned to Italy under contract "MAP 11"; delivered by vessel to Italy, unloaded at Bridisi harbor October 1950; assigned Italian AF serial MM4323; first unit assignment 4° Aerobrigata, coded 4-??; then 6° Stormo Caccia at Treviso; next assignment 8° Gruppo, coded 2-??; next assignment 303° Gruppo CAV Reparto Volo of III Regione Aerea, coded ZR-11; later re-coded RR-11, personal a/c of Generale Cupini, callsign "Bosca-11"; last flight 30th September 1964 (!); subsequently stored at Torino; to Museo Storico AMI at Vigna di Valle, displayed.

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a note: this a/c often erroneously is reported as serial 44-73444, but the actual serial 44-73451 is confirmed by a personal inspection of the cockpit !

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two photos - one confirming the serial-number - the other showing the DF-loop mounted behind the pilot's seat

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Wow,Thanks Martin.

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Some of the world's rarest aircraft and it's the Mustang that gets the mileage. :roll: Ah well.

It's a great museum, isn't it, Sabremech? How did you get there? Spend any time in Braciano itself?

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My sister is in Italy right now... and I can promise you that she won't be bringing me any pictures from this museum :evil:


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JDK wrote:
Some of the world's rarest aircraft and it's the Mustang that gets the mileage.


Just what I thought :lol:

Those sleek sexy birds make the Spitfire look a little frumpy :shock:


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We went over to Belluno to watch our daughter compete in a skydive competition. She's a member of the Army Golden Knights. From there we did a weeks worth of touring of Italy. The one stop on my list was this museum. We couldn't get close to the jets as this part of the museum was undergoing maint of some kind. We headed in to Rome after the museum visit and spent a bit of time there.
Here's a few more pictures of warbirds I spotted on our visit.

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Sabremech wrote:
We went over to Belluno to watch our daughter compete in a skydive competition. She's a member of the Army Golden Knights.

Proud dad moment! :D

As to the jets -

"the Cold War Hall IS under renovation, the floor was up, a 'car port' extension outside is in the process of construction and houses the three Ginas, underfloor heating is being installed - look out for a piece in FP on it!!!!"
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Perhaps a dumb question here, but why are the placards on the jet (in your last couple of pictures) all in English? Since it was built for Italians to work on, I would've thought the placards would've been in Italian. Or are they like us here in the States where you have to "Press 1 for English," but in their case, "Press 1 for Italian?"

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retroaviation wrote:
Perhaps a dumb question here, but why are the placards on the jet (in your last couple of pictures) all in English? Since it was built for Italians to work on, I would've thought the placards would've been in Italian. Or are they like us here in the States where you have to "Press 1 for English," but in their case, "Press 1 for Italian?"
Not a dumb question. I suspect it's a NATO standard requirement ~ but I don't know for sure.

PS should have said - great pics!

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What is this machine? (Muppet question)

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Panavia Tornado F.3 ADV (MM7210 coded 36-12, ex Royal Air Force ZE836)

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