Warbird Information Exchange

DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on this site are the responsibility of the poster and do not reflect the views of the management.
It is currently Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:53 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Classic Wings Magazine WWII Naval Aviation Research Pacific Luftwaffe Resource Center
When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:05 am
Posts: 271
Location: Oxfordshire
Been emailed this

Hi all,

I think we've got our Fly Day schedule nailed down so I wanted to send it along. Many people have been asking me about it so I've tried to include you on this e-mail (probably a few that haven't asked either! Hope to see you there!


May 15: P-47, Storch

May 22: Spitfire, P-40

June 5: P-51 (Plus additional P-51s)

June 19: Bf 109, I-16

July 10: P-51, Hurricane

July 24: Po-2, JN-4D (Plus Guests)

Aug 7: Spitfire, Hurricane

Aug 28: P-47 (Plus Guests)

Sept 11: P-51, P-47

Sept 25: Bf 109, Storch

Cory

Cory Graff
Military Aviation Curator
Flying Heritage Collection

_________________
'Coups De Foudre'
(511FS, 405FG watering hole), St Dizier, France 1944/45


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:27 pm 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:57 pm
Posts: 2716
Location: St Petersburg FL, USA
Cool! Real flying, fire-breathing aeroplanes! Just add them to the list of planes I won't be able to go see fly this season! :shock: :mrgreen: Oh, well, hopefully someone on WIX will see and shoot them! (and of course, share them with us all!!!! hint hint hint!)

_________________
Image
Aviation Illustration Website
http://shepartstudio.com/illustration/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:14 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 04, 2004 8:54 am
Posts: 3331
Does anyone have an update on the status of the Fw190A?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:35 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:54 am
Posts: 5210
Location: Stratford, CT.
No chance at seeing this great collection hit the road in the future?

_________________
Keep Em' Flying,
Christopher Soltis

Dedicated to the preservation and education of The Sikorsky Memorial Airport

CASC Blog Page: http://ctair-space.blogspot.com/
Warbird Wear: https://www.redbubble.com/people/warbirdwear/shop

Chicks Dig Warbirds.......right?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:05 am
Posts: 271
Location: Oxfordshire
Fw190A - you have no idea!!!!

Saw it in 1992 when first recovered and have been following ever since.

Finalising engine. Hopefully FHC will contact me when they get to paint her! (Recorded the scheme in 1992).

2013 - 70th Anniversary of build/loss though I hope it won't be that long to wait!!!!!

regards

MS

_________________
'Coups De Foudre'
(511FS, 405FG watering hole), St Dizier, France 1944/45


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:45 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:10 pm
Posts: 3246
Location: New York
Fantastic roster. I hope to get there one or two of those months, even though it's a long taxi ride from New York.

Any chance of seeing the Zero added to the lineup at some point during the year?

August


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:24 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:54 am
Posts: 5210
Location: Stratford, CT.
k5083 wrote:
Fantastic roster. I hope to get there one or two of those months, even though it's a long taxi ride from New York.

Any chance of seeing the Zero added to the lineup at some point during the year?

August


Yeah, I too thought this aircraft was pretty much ready to go almost a year ago. Still waiting to see what scheme she will be in.

_________________
Keep Em' Flying,
Christopher Soltis

Dedicated to the preservation and education of The Sikorsky Memorial Airport

CASC Blog Page: http://ctair-space.blogspot.com/
Warbird Wear: https://www.redbubble.com/people/warbirdwear/shop

Chicks Dig Warbirds.......right?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:42 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:10 pm
Posts: 3246
Location: New York
Warbird Kid wrote:
Yeah, I too thought this aircraft was pretty much ready to go almost a year ago. Still waiting to see what scheme she will be in.


I have my fingers crossed for trainer orange.

Finally, one most important question for shepsair: Have you seen Mr Allen lately and how is he doing?

August


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:55 pm 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club

Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm
Posts: 2760
While we're on the matter, how about an update on Allen's authentic Me 262? Is it still being worked on? Is it in England or the States?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:01 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:33 am
Posts: 69
Location: Washington
You will probably never see this collection fly so far away as to lose sight of the hangar in which they sit. The curators are afraid to send them to any air show just in case a paying visitor comes to see an airplane and it not be there some weekend. It does not matter if 100,000, 200,000, 300,000 or 400,000 other people would get to see it, they are mostly concerned with the one person and the $26 they paid being upset. Too bad, they are truly beautiful airplanes.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:39 pm 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club

Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm
Posts: 2760
dfrat wrote:
You will probably never see this collection fly so far away as to lose sight of the hangar in which they sit. The curators are afraid to send them to any air show just in case a paying visitor comes to see an airplane and it not be there some weekend. It does not matter if 100,000, 200,000, 300,000 or 400,000 other people would get to see it, they are mostly concerned with the one person and the $26 they paid being upset. Too bad, they are truly beautiful airplanes.


Is that truly what is going on? I remember hearing years ago, during the formative stages of the collection, that the original intention was to tour the airplanes around the country to different airshows. Eventually even Allen balked at that when he was presented with the huge logistical issues that would have to be considered in supporting a "one-man Air Force", i.e. - parts and maintenance for broke airplanes on the road and the cost of gas, storage, hangar fees, available ferry pilots, etc. When it was all done, they decided just to keep the collection at home to keep the costs and logistics simple.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:43 pm 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 01, 2004 2:43 am
Posts: 2491
Location: New Zealand
warbird1 wrote:
While we're on the matter, how about an update on Allen's authentic Me 262? Is it still being worked on? Is it in England or the States?


Update with current photo in CW 73 'Me 262 Survivors' Pt.2

_________________
Classic Wings Magazine

https://www.classicwings.com/

Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/ClassicWingsMagazine/

Preserved Axis Aircraft

http://www.classicwings.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:28 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:37 pm
Posts: 672
Quote:
You will probably never see this collection fly so far away as to lose sight of the hangar in which they sit. The curators are afraid to send them to any air show just in case a paying visitor comes to see an airplane and it not be there some weekend. It does not matter if 100,000, 200,000, 300,000 or 400,000 other people would get to see it, they are mostly concerned with the one person and the $26 they paid being upset. Too bad, they are truly beautiful airplanes.


I'm not really bothered by that because it adds a margin of safety for planes that have been superbly restored to high original standards. I don't think visitor fees is the primary factor there. I can travel to see the collection some day and good video of the flying displays will gradually find its way onto the internet--there's good footage of the Me109E3 in flight available now. I'm starting to worry that the Fw190A-5 may never fly and just be parked as another ultra-rare example. One can still hope for White 1 to fly in a couple of years, maybe.

_________________
"They done it, they done it, damned if they ain't flew." December 17, 1903


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:49 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:33 am
Posts: 69
Location: Washington
I have been told on numerous occasions that the FW190 will not fly due to it's rarity. Apparently it's the only long nose version extant and they don't want to risk losing it. The Zero has been sitting unfinished for more than a year now, it's close, but not there yet. As more airplanes come available from restoration shops around the globe, the museum intends to expand the current hangar to accommodate.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:58 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:10 pm
Posts: 3246
Location: New York
dfrat wrote:
You will probably never see this collection fly so far away as to lose sight of the hangar in which they sit. The curators are afraid to send them to any air show just in case a paying visitor comes to see an airplane and it not be there some weekend. It does not matter if 100,000, 200,000, 300,000 or 400,000 other people would get to see it, they are mostly concerned with the one person and the $26 they paid being upset. Too bad, they are truly beautiful airplanes.


I think when we see a prediction like this we have to remember that "never" is quite a long time. Remember the 1990s when Mr. Allen operated as a shadow figure who wouldn't even admit he owned any planes, and nobody could see them? Then the existence of the collection (which was the worst kept secret in the warbird biz anyway) went public, but you could only see them by appointment and only photograph them with a docent standing in front of them so the pics wouldn't be saleable? Now they have a beautiful facility and predictable, scheduled flying, which is more than certain prominent Texas collectors do. The trend of FHC has been toward more visibility. Today's policies are not necessarily tomorrow's. That said, cross-continental tours in old single-engined fighters are not to be taken lightly and have resulted in the loss of some aircraft and tense moments for many others.

August


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bradburger and 325 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group