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Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:08 pm
At the Crawford Museum, Cleveland, Ohio.
Jim
Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:16 pm
Aren't the remains of that A/C with Bob Odegard (sp) being restored to static condition? I know he was starting on one after he built his #57, but not sure it is the Crawford bird.
Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:32 pm
MX304 wrote:Aren't the remains of that A/C with Bob Odegard (sp) being restored to static condition? I know he was starting on one after he built his #57, but not sure it is the Crawford bird.
He is currently working on #74. It used to be at Soplata's, then the Crawford Museum bought it and Odegard is restoring it for them.
Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:49 pm
I thought it was something like that. Is that the 4360 from #74, or #99?
Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:57 pm
I heard the Crawford Museum sold their Boeing DH-4M1 to the folks in New Zealand. Any truth to that?
Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:50 am
MX304 wrote:I thought it was something like that. Is that the 4360 from #74, or #99?
The engine is from #94.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:12 am
The engine is from #74 F2G that was at Walters pplace.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:00 am
racer55 wrote:The engine is from #74 F2G that was at Walters pplace.
Nope...that is the engine from #94 which is all that survives of that airplane. The engine from #74 is with the rest of the plane...which is owned by Crawford...with Odegaard.
Jim
P.S.: Yes the DH.4 was sold Downunder. See:
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10109
Fifth pic down.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:26 am
#94 (Cleland's overall white F2G) was obtained by the Thompson Products Museum, but they decided to keep only the firewall forward portion of the plane. The rest was given to the Cleveland-Hopkins fire department and used for fire practice. Thompson Products was Fred Crawford's company, thus the connection between the "Thompson Air Races" and the Crawford Auto-Aviation Museum.
Walter Soplata had purchased #74, and was also looking to obtain #94 before Crawford got a hold of it. If Walter had beaten them to the punch, the all of Cleland's 1948-49 race team Corsairs would still be around today.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:14 am
Rob Mears wrote:#94 (Cleland's overall white F2G) was obtained by the Thompson Products Museum, but they decided to keep only the firewall forward portion of the plane. The rest was given to the Cleveland-Hopkins fire department and used for fire practice. Thompson Products was Fred Crawford's company, thus the connection between the "Thompson Air Races" and the Crawford Auto-Aviation Museum.
Walter Soplata had purchased #74, and was also looking to obtain #94 before Crawford got a hold of it. If Walter had beaten them to the punch, the all of Cleland's 1948-49 race team Corsairs would still be around today.
And if it weren't for Mr Odegard, they would probably all still be rotting away.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:10 pm
The engine mount from #94 is flying on #57 in exchange for work done by Odegaard as #57's was missing. Crawford also has #94's prop in storage as well as the origional tail assembly with the sub-rudder from either #74 or #94.
Various pieces of #94 were "salvaged" before burning and exist in private collections such as the wing tip plates, at least one of the main landing gears and the pilot's seat.
The burned remains are burried at Hopkin's airport.
Kenn
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