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Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:26 pm
Three bladed T6, Cool!
hehheeeee
Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:35 pm
"Counter rotating props" = Frickin Awesome
Thanks
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:38 am
Hey, that's a great video.
One comment though, that 3-bladed prop T-6 is actually a CA-16 Wirraway, a "licence-built derivative of the North American NA-16 (known variously as the 'Texan' or 'Harvard'). In appearance, the most obvious differences are the D-shaped rudder on the Wirraway, and variations to the intake below the cowling."
It is basically a Harvard/T-6 with a fabric covered fuselage and a bigger engine (600hp). Sometimes it would even have a rear facing gunner.
Just thought I'd pass that on.
Cheers,
David
Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:27 am
Interesting to see the take off performance and ability bestowed on the Spitfire fitted with the Shackleton contra-prop.
All torque.
PeterA
Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:43 am
daveymac82c wrote:
It is basically a Harvard/T-6 with a fabric covered fuselage and a bigger engine (600hp). Sometimes it would even have a rear facing gunner.
David
Wasn't the horse power on all the R1340 600hp. I thought the engine was an R1820 or R2000.
Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:12 am
Just found this on Google
http://www.aviationmuseum.com.au/aircraft/Wirraway.cfm
Engine
Pratt & Whitney R-1340
600 horsepower (448 kW)
Nine cylinder, supercharged, air cooled,
Geared Radial Engine
Steve
Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:39 pm
The difference is that the "normal" R-1340 like in the Harvard is a 550HP, continuous, but with 600HP available for take-off. The geared version is 600HP continuous, hence being "bigger".
Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:20 pm
That 2nd video is great. You rarely see a counterotating prop in action. The takeoff performance is impressive. I don't think I woudl want to pull the nose up that steep until I got more flying speed. Does anyone know the details of where and when this was and who the pilots were? The P-51B looks like Stephen Grey, am not sure of the others and I can't translate the French. I notice all three make a nice 3 point landing which you don't usually see here in the states.
Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:28 pm
Bill Greenwood wrote:Does anyone know the details of where and when this was and who the pilots were?
http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_Supermarine_Spitfire-Airline_Private_Aviation_Video-7113.html
From the data further down the screen.........
Location: Grenchen - (ZHI)
Country: Switzerland
Date: September 9, 2006
Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:18 pm
The pilot of the Spitfire was Christophe Jaquard (France)
Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:02 pm
Thanks for the link.
Bill,
I believe the pilot of 'Princess Elizabeth' was Nick Grey.
The contra prop Spit is quite an impressive perfomer as you can see, and I think that Christophe is quite pleased with it, judging by the way he flies it, and the way he talks in an interview about it!
Cheers
Paul
Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:18 pm
How about a P-38 with two griffons the ultimate "Frankenracer"?!!
Rgds Cking
Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:44 pm
Spitfire is the ex-Planes of Fame Pr.XIX that was fitted with a Griffon from a Shackleton. The single rotation engines are hard to come by in serviceable condition. Steve Hinton had considered attempting to beat the time-to-climb (to 10K feet?) record that Lyle Shelton holds in his Bearcat using this aircraft but I think he became far too busy by the time the plane got into the air.
Plane was sold to finance some major construction at the museum. Never fear though, Tom Friedkin has his Mk.IX and Mk.XIV at Planes of Fame so there is no shortage of Spitfires to look at!
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