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Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:54 pm
From today's ICAS Fast Facts:
In October, ICAS petitioned the FAA for exemption from section 91.151(a) and (b) of Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations. Last month, the FAA approved our petition allowing ICAS members to participate in ICAS events without meeting the fuel requirements for visual flight rules subject to the following conditions: The exemption is applicable for flights conducted under daylight hours in VFR conditions only; ICAS members must comply with any minimum fuel quantity requirement of an approved pilot operating manual or approved flight manual; The exemption applies only to ICAS members participating in waivered aviation events; and, Each ICAS member participating in a waivered event shall be provided a copy of the exemption.
Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:21 am
The IAC has had the 30 min. VFR reserve exemption for many, many years for aerobatic competitions. Whats interesting about the wording here is that it applies to "ICAS members" as opposed to participants involved in aerobatics at a waivered event. It would have been simpler to make this Reg., (91.151) waivable as per 91.905, so that inspectors could issue the waiver for each event, so it would apply to all participants who deemed it necessary for performance enhancement.
Anyway, with respect to warbird type operations, I doubt many would need this exemption. I carry 2 hrs. reserve (large airplanes) just in case there is a fouled runway requiring a hold, or I have a gear problem that needs to be solved, etc.
Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:02 am
This seems like a foolish an unnecessary step by the FAA. Having enough fuel to fly safely for 30 min is one of the basics of flight planning and is little enough margin.. In a small acro plane, 30 min might equal 5 or 10 gal. What's to be gained by leaving that out, and with or without the 50 lbs if all competed on the same basis, it should be ok. I wondered who the guy was lobbying for this was and what kind of plane? And we haven't even been able to get the chute repack reg extended from 3 to 6 months.
Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:04 pm
I think the intent of the ICAS is to protect aerobatic pilots from a few overzealous FAA types at airshows who have levied fines on questionable interpretations of the rule, e.g. "my calculations show that at full power you would have only had 27 minutes of fuel when you took off". Usually these FAA types were being vengeful because they were denied attention or a ride (like the Bob Hoover quagmire).
That said, there are a few pilots out there after the Holy Grail - vertical acceleration in a piston plane - and they may be looking for an excuse to sacrifice safety for a few pounds...
Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:19 pm
If anyone would like a copy of Exemption 8811, Regulatory Docket FAA-2006-26237, just email me and I’ll send you the PDF version (or PM me your email address – I can’t send file attachments via PM).
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