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T-28A On the Deck!!!

Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:21 pm

WWW.YOUTUBE.COM Search "T-28 Trojan Flyby KHMT" I haven't figured out how to link it. Maybe one of you Wixers could help. This Video is pretty cool, turn up the volume..Rob

Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:44 am

Try this out for the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csGWzBQDHfU

If the link does't work, cut and paste in your browser window.

Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:06 pm

Thanks Skymstr02! This Guy must have great faith in his engine. The gear up about a foot off the ground is interesting. Thoughts Wixers?

Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:47 pm

I'm not a big fan of low flying. I know everyone loves it, but I just don't care for it. Being on the event holder side of things most of the time whenever I see an aircraft a few feet off the ground all I can think about is how my entire family's life is going to be over when it takes off the roof of the hangar and takes a few hundred peoples lives with it. I know a lot of great pilots and most of them I trust with my life any day of the week but every one of them seem to love dusting the crops. I have seen it all and been buzzed by a B-25, P-51 so low I had to duck down, but have never really cared for on the deck flying.

low flying

Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:52 am

If I am seeing it right, it looks like he is doing the low part of his passes over the runway, not over people or buildings. The other point would be what G at what airspeed is he in the turns and how does a 28 handle near stall? I do know that Julie Clark does not do a low altitude show in her 28. The one rule that really makes sense at airshows is staying on the safe side of the deadline. I have seen military jets violate this many times. The rules allow you to overfly the crowd if at 1000 and I've done this, but in most cases it's better not to.

Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:39 pm

Looks like the proverbial "accident waiting to happen".

Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:00 am

I'll be fonzie here and say, "Ehhhhhhhhayyyy, relax...."

No one gets into an airplane and says, "I'm gonna waste myself and a bunch of other folks doing a low level pass today."

It would be my guess that the pilot of that airplane has hours in it that totally smokes Steve Hintons hours in P-38s, and I've seen low passes made by Steve in those planes in videos. In fact, I was present when Steve Hinton and Dan Martin made some very freakin low passes over hangars, people, and everything in P51's. I have also been present more than once when Julie Clark made passes exactly like that over several airfields in the Banana. I've seen a lot of folks do it, and I've been in the airplane doing it, I've been the person doing it, and I've done it in the ole 172 too....

Waivered airspace, and nothing. Heheheeee, I am so happy that, well, some things aint an FAA sanctioned airshow, and people can fly airplanes and do stuff themselves without permission from the gubmint.

What that guy did in that video is nothing different from what I'd see Dan, Ron, Tony, Paul, Stu, Rich, Chuck, Julie, Ect, Ect, doing out at LVK in a break to land. And yeah, I'm name dropping.........

Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:57 am

Like I said plenty of pilots that are great pilots, I know and respect, do it all the time but my personal preference is that I don't like it over crowds or buildings. I love as much as the next guy seeing nice low (75 -100) AGL between the crowd and the runway. When you need to pull up to avoid telephone lines, that is a little low for me. It doesn't mean I have any less respect for them as a pilot or person. I love and trust my wife but it doesn't mean I have to like it when she is so close to the guy in front her that I can't see their license plate. :D I guess I am just one of those play it safe kind of guys.

low pass

Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:10 am

How high should a low pass be? For a T-28, I'd suggest far enough to be ought of earshot, so you don't have folks phoning 911 that it sounds like there is a plane with engine trouble. For anything with a Merlin, as long as the prop clears, everyone doesn't get to hear such sweet music often. For a 3350 down low also; minimizes the spread of the oil drops.

Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:48 am

Whenever I think someone is flying too low I am always told: Take it easy, that guy flies better than God, when he cuts the grass it's perfectly safe. A few years later when they are spooning that guy out of a smoking hole is probably the wrong time to say "I told you so," so I keep it to myself.

August

Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:44 pm

When it comes to low passes, you can only tie the record.
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