F-4 for warbirds?
Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:57 am
Any likely chances of US warbirders to acquire a foreign or AMARCd F-4 in future?
Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:30 am
Yes, two chances that will happen.
Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:33 am
OK Skymaster, I'll bite. Care to elaborate ?
Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:15 am
Rick, slim and none!
It literally took and act of Congress for Collings to get access to their F-4, and the USAF has put policies into place to prevent any further turbojet powered aircraft into service with a civil tail number.
Look at the F-105 engine mount issue recently.
It literally took and act of Congress for Collings to get access to their F-4, and the USAF has put policies into place to prevent any further turbojet powered aircraft into service with a civil tail number.
Look at the F-105 engine mount issue recently.
Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:43 am
That wasn't USAFon the F-105 . It was NMUSAF. The policies haven't been changed. They still think that DoD policy supercedes public law.
Notice my avatar ? I'm intimately familiar with the bureaucratic mindset.
Notice my avatar ? I'm intimately familiar with the bureaucratic mindset.
Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:07 am
I side with you guys on much of it. I feel that there is no reason why an F-105, or an F-4 shouldn't be allowed on the warbird circuit. There only thing I don't know about is what to do with things like the F-14 and the F-117 when they come out of service. You can't just let anyone have one because there are countries that would love to get their hands on them.
Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:19 am
mustangdriver wrote:I side with you guys on much of it. I feel that there is no reason why an F-105, or an F-4 shouldn't be allowed on the warbird circuit. There only thing I don't know about is what to do with things like the F-14 and the F-117 when they come out of service. You can't just let anyone have one because there are countries that would love to get their hands on them.
I agree with what you said but there is also a bunch of countries who'd love to get their hands on a F-4 or F-105. But I'm all for seeing those jets on the circuit.
Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:34 am
Well, if the Air Force continues to fly F-4s to air shows, that could solve the problem. I really don't care who owns them (civilian or military) as long as they are still flying! It would be nice if the Navy had 3-4 F-14s to fly to air shows for Legacy Flights!
Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:39 am
well the usn did have 43yr old F-4B phantoms flying until recently also... shame they didnt keep a heirtage idea too ... a few F-4B finey tuned as warbirds would beeen fine recruitment tools
Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:59 am
RickH wrote:That wasn't USAFon the F-105 . It was NMUSAF. The policies haven't been changed. They still think that DoD policy supercedes public law.
Notice my avatar ? I'm intimately familiar with the bureaucratic mindset.
There is no difference between the USAF and the NMUSAF. Both of their policies originate in the Pentagon, and they both use the same playbook.
Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:36 am
sabredriver wrote:well the usn did have 43yr old F-4B phantoms flying until recently also... shame they didnt keep a heirtage idea too ... a few F-4B finey tuned as warbirds would beeen fine recruitment tools
I agree that we really need an F-4 in Navy or Marine Corps markings for Navy Legacy Flights.
Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:01 pm