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B-18A - B-18B comparison

Wed May 09, 2007 3:17 pm

Here are some pics of a B-18A taken at Douglas (black & white) and some for comparison of the B-18B restoration at Pima Air & Space Museum (color).
This shows what a great job Pima did on their interior.
bill word

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Wed May 09, 2007 4:09 pm

Nice pics! I guess thats the bomb site behind the pilots seat?

Wed May 09, 2007 4:27 pm

Wow, never seen the inside of a B-18 before. It's got more accommodations then a B-17 has! :shock:

B-18A - B-18B comparison

Wed May 09, 2007 4:38 pm

I believe that the sight behind the pilot's seat is a driftmeter for the navigator.Two types were in common use,at least in the days of C-119J's and C-117D's.The B-3 driftmeter used 115v single phase ac power,while the B-6 used 115v three phase ac power.Both were used to determine wind direction and velocity via a telescopic sight with various useful reference markings both internal and external.

Wed May 09, 2007 5:46 pm

Larry is correct that is a drift meter, In fact an original B-18 drift meter.
I have a few more interior pics and I will post them after I walk the dogs.
bill word

Wed May 09, 2007 6:10 pm

More Pima B-18B interior shots I hope this is not too many photos at one time.
bill word
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B-18A and B-18B

Wed May 09, 2007 6:52 pm

At last, someone is honoring the old reliable. These images appear to be identical to those in a recent book released by Schiffer on the B-18 by Dr. William Wolf, however - of course taking interior views could well lead to apparent "duplication" I guess.

For anyone who is interested, Air-Britain has agreed to publish y six-year project on the B-18, XB-22 and B-23 in their Monographs series, and it will be an opportunity to fully discuss the pros (and many cons) of the very misunderstood aircraft....including nose art and wonderful color side-views by Rich Dann.

Wed May 09, 2007 9:31 pm

The B-18 looks great!
If all goes according to plan I'll be at Pima on Sunday with lots of room on the memory cards, and I can't wait.
Too Bad it is not a COMPLETE restoration so they could filler up with 100LL and Oil and depart for Oshkosh, they would be returning with an award no doubt...

Wed May 09, 2007 9:43 pm

Pima is a first rate museum, as can be seen in these pics.

B-18 photos

Thu May 10, 2007 12:50 am

Hi Bill,
Thanks so much for the great photos of my favorite chunky '30s bomber! A question: was there anything left of the original rear turret mount? Too bad there aren't any Bolos out there with a chance to fly again, unless a miracle happens with the Hawaii bird...

Thu May 10, 2007 1:21 am

Chris the turret was removed in the modification from B-18A to B-18B, only the tunnel .30cal remained. I am attaching a few more photos I have taken in the 16 years I have been a volunteer at Pima.

The B-18B in 1986
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The interior in 1991 (Photobucket is not letting me rotate the third photo)
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Roll out in 1995 after painting. The second photo is of Lumpy Lumkin on the right and Bob Strand on the left the main contributers to the restoration.
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More interior shots 2001 showing the .30 cal in the tunnel and a shot forward of the door. The third photo here also should be rotated but photobucket won't let me.
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Thu May 10, 2007 2:04 am

All the Pima B-18B photos posted here were taken by me between 1986 and present time as well as any and all Pima Air & Space Museum photos that I have or will post.

My personal aircraft photo collection (photos I have taken) is over 22,000 cataloged slides, prints and digital.

bill word

Thu May 10, 2007 7:16 am

Aloha All,
I see the interiors for the B-18A and B-18B... Is there any interior details for the B-18(blank)...the round nose B-18?
TIA,
David Aiken

Thu May 10, 2007 7:40 am

Did the B-18 get moved indoors now with th enew building?

Thu May 10, 2007 10:31 am

Wow! I've always liked the B-18; incredible restoration. Looks like Pima will move up on my list of places to see! :)

I'd love to see her in the air, but it sounds like that is not the intent of the restoration. Regardless, I am glad that she has received some much needed TLC.
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