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Desert Song

Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:08 pm

Probably of most interest to Cees and Gregory

:D
Image

Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:18 pm

What actually "was" this ?

Looks like an open cockpit aircraft



TNZ

Sad story

Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:36 am

Tony

thanks for posting. The picture has been around for about a year but sadly it brough unwanted publicity and souvenir hunters and the cross-country/off-road crowd have apparently ensured it didn't survive much longer. Pity.

By the way - in case y'all are wondering why it should be of interest to Cees & Gregory, it isn't a Halifax shot down attempting to bomb Italy. It's the fuselage of a Fokker C.VE, built in Italy as the Romeo Ro.1 and used extensively in operational and training roles until 1943. A few C.V survive, but no Ro.1.

Anyway, this opportunity seems to have been lost almost as fast as it was found.

Gregory

Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:15 am

That's a darn shame Gregory, an historically significant airframe lost forever.

There are other airframes in the region, in somewhat better condition, they remain there because there are rather a lot of mines in the vicinity :D

I'm just waiting on some imagery from a mine survey team that allegedly shows a single engined fighter in the east of the country. It's not going anywhere in a hurry :D

Regards

Tony

Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:35 am

Hi Tony,

Good to see you hunting for warbirds again.

First thing I thought on seeing the photo was: What's that Fokker doing in the desert? Then Gregory cleared the mystery. Pity that such a historic aircraft can be damaged by people who don't know the historical importance of such a rare aircraft.

Tony,

Any news on that Polish contact of yours regarding his Halifax recoveries there?

Cheers

Cees

Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:58 am

Hi Cees

Did I send you his contact details? If not, let me know and I'll get the email addy over to you.

Gregory, have you seen the piccies of the SM79's as well?

It seems the only reason they are deteriorating, is people nicking bits off them, since that route is more travelled than the M1 nowadays.

A couple of years ago, I came across imagery that showed what appeared to be a Beaufighter in a revetment, in the East of the country. Unfortunately my hard disk blew up some time ago, but I did send Phil E. a copy of the photo. Going back through some of my old note pads, I had written the general co-ords down, and checking the TPC's again, realised we weren't looking at the Kufra Blenheim. So either it's another Blenheim, or it's a Beau, as yet unrecovered/investigated, which of course excites me :)

There was another image of a single seat fighter down in the area of Gbard el-kabir (From memory) . Satimage dated from 1991. Phil, I think you got a copy of that too.

I really must try and get the imagery for this area. I believe there are a significant number of airframes still around, protected by the inhospitable terrain, lack of access and the bloody millions of mines in the area.

Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:38 pm

Hi Cees

Did I send you his contact details? If not, let me know and I'll get the email addy over to you

Ehmmmm, no you didn't

If you could, then I will be very please. you can contact me at:

broere01ATwanadoo.nl

Very interesting area you are looking into at the moment.

Cheers

Cees
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