This is the place where the majority of the warbird (aircraft that have survived military service) discussions will take place. Specialized forums may be added in the new future
Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:32 pm
Very cool photo, but it might cause Eric to have "Skyraider envy".
Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:24 pm
At first glance i thought that photo was fake. They almost look like some models from a godzilla movie. Then I read the comments down below and found out there real. That is an awesome photo.
Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:07 pm
The AD-4 was owned by Dick Bertea. HB is the initals of his wife who gave the A/C to him for a birthday gift IIRC. A/C was maintained by Pacific Fighters at Chino.
The AD-5 was restored by Pacific Fighters and Fighter Rebuilders finished it.
Rich
Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:42 pm
K5DH wrote:
Very cool photo, but it might cause Eric to have "Skyraider envy".
No envy here. I have though more than once about buying a single seat as well. The belgian one a courtesy is a good deal, if you didn't have to deal with the issues of getting it here.
Danny Summers is one of the good guys in the warbird community, he let me fly his AD5 to get checked out while I was buying mine. It's a beautiful airpalne.
I think the smartest move for me is to get a 3350 powered Sea Fury eventually, that gives me commonality of power trains and a fighter as well. That's for later, my main interest now lies with a C-45/AT-11 and a better global economy, not in that order.
Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:38 am
Is there one for sale in Belgium then? Do you have a lead on it? Shipping can't be a problem, always glad to assist in it.
Johan
Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:29 am
Unless you have a power saw, a Skyraider will never fit into a shipping container. They are very expensive to ship.
http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/F-AZDQ%20Skyraider%20Spec.htm
Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:57 am
bdk wrote:...a Skyraider will never fit into a shipping container.....
I concur
interesting comparison here:
Martin
Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:14 pm
A large one like that shouldn't be shipped in a container. you'll need a custom made frame or a large airplane like a Tupolev to ship it. The frame is the less expensive option on this one.
And for the adventurous guys amongst us, install xtra tanks and fly it home! That's something to tell your grandchildren!
Johan
Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:04 pm
Just how the H@!! do you get a picture (with motion no less) that crisp and clear!!

Where is the grain, the dust, the artifacts?!
Seriously though they never tell you what kind of equipment they used for the shot. What is it and how much do I have to shell out to buy it?!
Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:39 pm
Johan wrote:
A large one like that shouldn't be shipped in a container. you'll need a custom made frame or a large airplane like a Tupolev to ship it. The frame is the less expensive option on this one.
And for the adventurous guys amongst us, install xtra tanks and fly it home! That's something to tell your grandchildren!
Cost of shipping the airplane on the deck is somewhere between 40-50k all in as I recall. That includes permits etc. That does not include the huge FAA hassles once you get it here ( ask Alan Anders about that mess).
Flying it over is more costly and in many case cost prohibitive due to insurance permit requirements. I looked into all this when I was talking to Steven Gray about buying his AD and bringing back from Duxford.
Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:08 pm
I'm not aware about the FAA costs and problems that you can have with them. The only problem I can think of it that you need to pass it throught the customs in the US. For armoured vehicles you need to show clearely the historic significance of it or you just wont get it over the border. Don't know about warbirds on that matter.
But shipping really can't be a problem. Not saying it will be cheap, but I shipped larger things then this.
For every problem, there is a solution.
Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:03 pm
Photo was taken with most likey a fixed aperture lens , maybe 2.8 with a high ISO around 1200-3600
Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:49 pm
From the same show posted on the SAH website:
Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:58 pm
Johan wrote:I'm not aware about the FAA costs and problems that you can have with them. The only problem I can think of it that you need to pass it throught the customs in the US. For armoured vehicles you need to show clearely the historic significance of it or you just wont get it over the border. Don't know about warbirds on that matter.
But shipping really can't be a problem. Not saying it will be cheap, but I shipped larger things then this.
For every problem, there is a solution.
We had to wait for the FAA for 3-4 months to get Princess Elizabeth registered here. Importing an item originally made in the US isn't a problem providing it hasn't been in a proscribed country. ie communist or enemy. Dealing with ATF will take some time though.
Rich
Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:05 pm
Equipment clearly states Canon 100-400L series lens, which is F4.5-5.6. Since the prop is blurred, and the plane behind, the shutter speed is slow, so no need for a very high ISO setting. High ISO would just add grain.
Overall a great image with the smoke and lighting.
Bill.
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