Bout that Brewster Corsair wreck in Minnesota vs the Navy
Mon May 17, 2004 12:01 pm
From the local paper today. Looks like the good guys might win one
Dan
Rare warbird may land permanently in Minnesota man's hands
Associated Press
May 17, 2004
A five-year dispute over ownership of a rare U.S. Navy fighter plane from World War II could soon be decided in favor of an airplane mechanic from Princeton, Minn. - although it will take an act of Congress.
The beginning of the end came last week when a team of federal officials arrived at Lex Cralley's rural home while he was out of town. They spent hours inspecting the wreckage of the Corsair that had been resting in his machine shed since 1990.
``I had no intention of being there,'' Cralley said later. ``For all I knew, they intended to interrogate me.''
The dispute began when the Navy learned that Cralley, a 49-year-old Northwest Airlines mechanic, had salvaged the remains of the plane that had crashed in a North Carolina swamp back in 1944. Shortly afterward, a Navy report noted the death of the pilot and described the plane as ``demolished.''
Though more than four decades passed before Cralley salvaged the wreck, he learned the hard way that the Navy has a policy of exerting its ownership of things that have been long discarded - and that they can play hardball.
``In the past two years, things had gotten pretty ugly,'' Cralley said.
In March, the U.S. Justice Department, acting as the attorney for the Navy, filed a lawsuit in Minneapolis seeking the plane, the cost of returning it and compensation for ``any damage to or alteration of'' the aircraft since Cralley dug it out of the swamp.
At the time the lawsuit was filed, officials at the Justice Department declined to discuss the reasons behind the Navy's interest in getting the plane back. But historical aviation enthusiasts said Cralley's salvaged plane is a rare one - perhaps the only existing Corsair of its kind.
Specifically, it's a ``Brewster F3A-1'' Corsair, manufactured by the Brewster Aeronautical Corp. of Long Island, N.Y., after the original manufacturer, the Chance Vought Aircraft Corp. of Stratford, Conn., became overwhelmed by a wartime demand for new planes.
Brewster, which no longer exists, built only 735 versions of the F3A-1 - Cralley's was the 119th - compared to more than 12,000 F4U Corsairs built by Chance Vought.
A story about the lawsuit that was published in March by the St. Paul Pioneer Press and was picked up by The Associated Press and distributed nationally. Within days, Cralley said, the outraged calls started coming in.
One came from U.S. Rep. Walter B. Jones, R-N.C., whose district includes the original crash site near the Cherry Point Marine Corps Training Station. Jones later wrote a letter to Navy Secretary Gordon England in which he asked England to exert some ``common-sense leadership'' to avoid having the Corsair dispute become a ``laughable poster child'' for big government run amok.
Cralley also said he got support from Minnesota's former U.S. Sen. Rod Grams, a Republican who is now a Washington lobbyist, and from U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman, also a Republican.
A spokeswoman for Jones' Washington office said the congressman would be introducing a ``private bill'' that will specifically convey the Corsair from the Navy to Cralley.
``The Navy has given their blessing on this particular option,'' said Anne Cassity, an aide to Jones. ``Hopefully, it will be resolved in the near future.''
Cralley's Minneapolis attorney Boyd H. Ratchye said a continuance on the federal lawsuit against Cralley is expected to stop it from going forward until July. By then, he hopes the action will be dropped.
``I don't have an argument with the Navy or anybody who served in it,'' Cralley said last week, the day after he returned from Washington. ``But with some bureaucrats - yeah, I have an argument.''
Cralley said his efforts to restore the Corsair have been largely ``on hold'' for the past five years because of the federal dispute.
``I spent five years just trying to locate the parts and collect components that were scattered all over the place,'' Cralley said.
Restoring the plane also means fabricating new parts, something Cralley says he can't do alone. For example, some of the gun access doors on the wings of the plane have been replicated by Art Aasland, a machinist from Lakeville.
``The quality of his work is amazing,'' Cralley said. ``But it's a very slow, painstaking process.''
Restoration of the plane by some estimates could cost millions. The plane itself could be worth more than $1 million if restored for flight. Only about 24 flyable Corsairs exist.
``We have to preserve some of these planes statically, as artifacts,'' Cralley said. ``But it's also important to see them fly, so that young generations have an appreciation of what they were.''
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Information from: St. Paul Pioneer Press, http:// www.twincities.com
Dan
Rare warbird may land permanently in Minnesota man's hands
Associated Press
May 17, 2004
A five-year dispute over ownership of a rare U.S. Navy fighter plane from World War II could soon be decided in favor of an airplane mechanic from Princeton, Minn. - although it will take an act of Congress.
The beginning of the end came last week when a team of federal officials arrived at Lex Cralley's rural home while he was out of town. They spent hours inspecting the wreckage of the Corsair that had been resting in his machine shed since 1990.
``I had no intention of being there,'' Cralley said later. ``For all I knew, they intended to interrogate me.''
The dispute began when the Navy learned that Cralley, a 49-year-old Northwest Airlines mechanic, had salvaged the remains of the plane that had crashed in a North Carolina swamp back in 1944. Shortly afterward, a Navy report noted the death of the pilot and described the plane as ``demolished.''
Though more than four decades passed before Cralley salvaged the wreck, he learned the hard way that the Navy has a policy of exerting its ownership of things that have been long discarded - and that they can play hardball.
``In the past two years, things had gotten pretty ugly,'' Cralley said.
In March, the U.S. Justice Department, acting as the attorney for the Navy, filed a lawsuit in Minneapolis seeking the plane, the cost of returning it and compensation for ``any damage to or alteration of'' the aircraft since Cralley dug it out of the swamp.
At the time the lawsuit was filed, officials at the Justice Department declined to discuss the reasons behind the Navy's interest in getting the plane back. But historical aviation enthusiasts said Cralley's salvaged plane is a rare one - perhaps the only existing Corsair of its kind.
Specifically, it's a ``Brewster F3A-1'' Corsair, manufactured by the Brewster Aeronautical Corp. of Long Island, N.Y., after the original manufacturer, the Chance Vought Aircraft Corp. of Stratford, Conn., became overwhelmed by a wartime demand for new planes.
Brewster, which no longer exists, built only 735 versions of the F3A-1 - Cralley's was the 119th - compared to more than 12,000 F4U Corsairs built by Chance Vought.
A story about the lawsuit that was published in March by the St. Paul Pioneer Press and was picked up by The Associated Press and distributed nationally. Within days, Cralley said, the outraged calls started coming in.
One came from U.S. Rep. Walter B. Jones, R-N.C., whose district includes the original crash site near the Cherry Point Marine Corps Training Station. Jones later wrote a letter to Navy Secretary Gordon England in which he asked England to exert some ``common-sense leadership'' to avoid having the Corsair dispute become a ``laughable poster child'' for big government run amok.
Cralley also said he got support from Minnesota's former U.S. Sen. Rod Grams, a Republican who is now a Washington lobbyist, and from U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman, also a Republican.
A spokeswoman for Jones' Washington office said the congressman would be introducing a ``private bill'' that will specifically convey the Corsair from the Navy to Cralley.
``The Navy has given their blessing on this particular option,'' said Anne Cassity, an aide to Jones. ``Hopefully, it will be resolved in the near future.''
Cralley's Minneapolis attorney Boyd H. Ratchye said a continuance on the federal lawsuit against Cralley is expected to stop it from going forward until July. By then, he hopes the action will be dropped.
``I don't have an argument with the Navy or anybody who served in it,'' Cralley said last week, the day after he returned from Washington. ``But with some bureaucrats - yeah, I have an argument.''
Cralley said his efforts to restore the Corsair have been largely ``on hold'' for the past five years because of the federal dispute.
``I spent five years just trying to locate the parts and collect components that were scattered all over the place,'' Cralley said.
Restoring the plane also means fabricating new parts, something Cralley says he can't do alone. For example, some of the gun access doors on the wings of the plane have been replicated by Art Aasland, a machinist from Lakeville.
``The quality of his work is amazing,'' Cralley said. ``But it's a very slow, painstaking process.''
Restoration of the plane by some estimates could cost millions. The plane itself could be worth more than $1 million if restored for flight. Only about 24 flyable Corsairs exist.
``We have to preserve some of these planes statically, as artifacts,'' Cralley said. ``But it's also important to see them fly, so that young generations have an appreciation of what they were.''
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Information from: St. Paul Pioneer Press, http:// www.twincities.com
Mon May 17, 2004 12:17 pm
One came from U.S. Rep. Walter B. Jones, R-N.C., whose district includes the original crash site near the Cherry Point Marine Corps Training Station. Jones later wrote a letter to Navy Secretary Gordon England in which he asked England to exert some "common-sense leadership'' to avoid having the Corsair dispute become a "laughable poster child'' for big government run amok.
That's a beautiful quote, and cuts right to the heart of the problem.
I'm so pleased that a statement like this is on record, coming from a US Representative no less. It lays some good groundwork for the future, as will the completion of this "private bill" to Cralley on part of the Navy. I can't tell you how great it makes me feel to know there may be hope for the "little guy" amongst the institutionalized BS that runs rife through the government. Seeing US Reps admit to it on the record will make the victory all the more sweet.
Mon May 17, 2004 12:58 pm
What I find sad is that it is less surprizing that the Naval beurocrats are being horses patoots than it is that justice may actually be served in this case.
Congratulations to Lex Cralley!
Congratulations to Lex Cralley!
Not intending to throw a wet blanket on this...
Mon May 17, 2004 6:36 pm
But I'm wondering if this would actually be a BAD precedent. Wouldn't this kind of bill going through the government possibly actually support the Navy's future claim to any projects (ie. We really do own it, but we're going to give it to you anyway)? It sounds like it would be a good idea to see what the wording is on this bill... If what I've suggested is the case, I'd almost rather see a general bill clarifying the situation regarding the status of old truly ABANDONED aircraft or even see Mr. Cralley win a case against the Navy.
I sure hope I'm wrong and wish Mr. Cralley the best and some peace and remuneration for this wrong.
Ryan
I sure hope I'm wrong and wish Mr. Cralley the best and some peace and remuneration for this wrong.
Ryan
Mon May 17, 2004 7:34 pm
From what I've been told, the Navy has in the past added language to the effect that the surrendering of a derelict aircraft does not establish a precedent in the surrendering of derelict aircraft. So you can't use the fact that they gave up an airplane to say they are giving up airplanes. Kind of strange. Gary
Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:35 pm
Has this airplane been rebuilt as of yet?
I am interested in who owns this, being I am only 15 miles from Princeton MN, I would like to contact this person.
Any information is appriciated!
I am interested in who owns this, being I am only 15 miles from Princeton MN, I would like to contact this person.
Any information is appriciated!
Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:27 pm
aside from a war grave situation which should be left untouched out of human respect......... the navy's stance & philosophy is bullheaded, hindsighted to aviation history & plain old bull sh*t!!!
Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:56 pm
tom d. friedman wrote:aside from a war grave situation which should be left untouched out of human respect......... the navy's stance & philosophy is bullheaded, hindsighted to aviation history & plain old bull sh*t!!!
Actually, I think it would be better to rebuild it to tribute those humans that used it to protect out freedom. At least that is my thoughts. I would rather I die and have someone tribute me for my country and my contribution, then to forget about me and let me rest in the woods or swamp.