karma?
Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:11 pm
Does anyone know the position Sen. McCain's father held at the time of the Gulf of Tonkin "incident"? I'm wondering if dad was in a high enough pay grade to have known about it, as well as what a fabrication (lie) it was, if not having actually signed off on it.
I'm not looking to be political, I'm just real curious about it.
I'm not looking to be political, I'm just real curious about it.
Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:20 pm
he (mcain's dad) held the position of commander in chief of the pacific fleet. no clue on the signing off....... all i know is that mcain was thrown a bone to go home, he flat assed refused to go with out his fellow p.o.w.s. it was intended to be a propaganda ploy by the north vietmanese, as they thought only a fool would deny such an opportunity in mcain's position. mcain has his faults, but he has integrity.
Re: karma?
Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:31 pm
Just for the record, I was in the USAF early in 1962 when volunteers were sought to go to Vietnam (FACs, etc.), without being told which country their destination would be. This was under (Democrat) President Kennedy.
But I'm not being political, either.
But I'm not being political, either.
Admiral McCain was moved to that position after John was
Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:09 pm
tom d. friedman wrote:he (mcain's dad) held the position of commander in chief of the pacific fleet. no clue on the signing off....... all i know is that mcain was thrown a bone to go home, he flat assed refused to go with out his fellow p.o.w.s. it was intended to be a propaganda ploy by the north vietmanese, as they thought only a fool would deny such an opportunity in mcain's position. mcain has his faults, but he has integrity.
captured....
Re: Admiral McCain was moved to that position after John was
Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:22 pm
n5151ts wrote:tom d. friedman wrote:he (mcain's dad) held the position of commander in chief of the pacific fleet. no clue on the signing off....... all i know is that mcain was thrown a bone to go home, he flat assed refused to go with out his fellow p.o.w.s. it was intended to be a propaganda ploy by the north vietmanese, as they thought only a fool would deny such an opportunity in mcain's position. mcain has his faults, but he has integrity.
captured....
I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so I don't follow your "captured", which I do know that he was shot down while out on a sortie, and taken as a POW. Care to expand on your comment?
Re: Admiral McCain was moved to that position after John was
Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:37 pm
gary1954 wrote:n5151ts wrote:tom d. friedman wrote:he (mcain's dad) held the position of commander in chief of the pacific fleet. no clue on the signing off....... all i know is that mcain was thrown a bone to go home, he flat assed refused to go with out his fellow p.o.w.s. it was intended to be a propaganda ploy by the north vietmanese, as they thought only a fool would deny such an opportunity in mcain's position. mcain has his faults, but he has integrity.
captured....
I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so I don't follow your "captured", which I do know that he was shot down while out on a sortie, and taken as a POW. Care to expand on your comment?
You have to read the very top of the box where it says, "Post Subject:"
The actual full sentence including the top says, "Post subject: Re: Admiral McCain was moved to that position after John was captured.......
It's something that n5151ts likes to do. He will start a sentence up top and then finish it on the bottom in the post.
Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:13 pm
Ah I see
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Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:21 pm
If I recall correctly ADM McCain has CO of all forces in VN signed of on each Linebacker mission in the north inc Hanoi knowing his son could die in the bombing and every XMas he visited the outpost closest to the DMZ and stood at the perimeter to be has close to his son has possible. 
Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:57 pm
Interesting answers, but it would be interesting to know to what extent, if any, his dad knew of the Gulf of Tonkin incident and what part he played, if any, in signing off in it and making it possible.
I wonder how that could be researched.
I wonder how that could be researched.
Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:25 pm
michaelharadon wrote:Interesting answers, but it would be interesting to know to what extent, if any, his dad knew of the Gulf of Tonkin incident and what part he played, if any, in signing off in it and making it possible.
I wonder how that could be researched.
In 1964 he was the commander of amphibious forces for the Atlantic Fleet.
James