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HellCats-Take That Army Junk!!

Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:54 pm

:P :P :wink:
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F6F-5K VU-1 1962
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F6F-5s NAR
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F6F-3s RN
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F6F-3s VF-1 May 1944
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F6F-3s VF-1 1944
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Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:54 pm

Jack,

Great shots of VF-1. Do you know any of the guys from that squadron ? Always wished there was a book on VF-1 and VF-5 right before them on the Yorktown.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:16 pm

Thx J .... just made my day. :lol:

Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:40 pm

Love that first VF-1 photo!

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Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:37 pm

Do you know any of the guys from that squadron ?

Don Knapp was on Tarawa with them. He was a former AVG pilot but is now deceased. WIXer 666 knows a lot about VF-1. I've got more shots of them also.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:55 pm

Unbelieveble- when I think that nothing else can suprise me about Hellcat then miracle happen.... Jack you are the great, thank you :P

ARMY JUNK!!!

Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:44 pm

Little history lesson here, Jack...
1 The US Army Air Corps (USAC) first to adopt aircraft as a new weapons system along with the Army Signal Corps...
2 The USAC led the way in military aviation design, research and development 1920s to 1940s and WWII..
3 During the 20s and 30s Naval Comanders rejected the use of aircraft as a weapons system, they wanted battleships, many Senior brass said the next war would be won by the battleships.
4 December 7th 1941, not one naval aircraft took off to attack the Japanese,
the Army Junk did though.
5 The "ARMY JUNK" were first to deploy to England and start daylight bombing over Europe.
6 The airwar over France and Germany never saw a single Navy aircraft,
but in the Pacific there were plenty of Army A/Cs
7 P-51s, B-17s, B-24s, P-47s, B-25s, and many B-29s....
8 Who flew all the supply lines in the Pacific, C-46/C-47s also "ARMY JUNK"...
Take Care, Out Here

Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:52 pm

I think Jack was talking about the wixer "Armyjunk" that has posted countless grumman photos... see the sticky thread...

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Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:57 pm

Little history lesson here, Jack...

:shock: :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :?: :?: :?: :hide: :pirate
I think Jack was talking about the wixer "Armyjunk" that has posted countless grumman photos... see the sticky thread...

what he said :idea:

Re: ARMY JUNK!!!

Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:58 pm

JetStarMech wrote:Little history lesson here, Jack...
1 The US Army Air Corps (USAC) first to adopt aircraft as a new weapons system along with the Army Signal Corps...
2 The USAC led the way in military aviation design, research and development 1920s to 1940s and WWII..
3 During the 20s and 30s Naval Comanders rejected the use of aircraft as a weapons system, they wanted battleships, many Senior brass said the next war would be won by the battleships.
4 December 7th 1941, not one naval aircraft took off to attack the Japanese,
the Army Junk did though.
5 The "ARMY JUNK" were first to deploy to England and start daylight bombing over Europe.
6 The airwar over France and Germany never saw a single Navy aircraft,
but in the Pacific there were plenty of Army A/Cs
7 P-51s, B-17s, B-24s, P-47s, B-25s, and many B-29s....
8 Who flew all the supply lines in the Pacific, C-46/C-47s also "ARMY JUNK"...
Take Care, Out Here


He didn't mean it the way you took it ... :?

Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:00 pm

Now that's hilarious!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:02 pm

Is Southern France considered France? I know that by "the airwar over France and Germany" you mean the main, strategic air war, BUT, Hellcats WERE supporting operations in the Med, Southern FRANCE, Norway...

Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:25 pm

bobbrunn wrote: Do you know any of the guys from that squadron ? Always wished there was a book on VF-1 and VF-5 right before them on the Yorktown.


My father, ENS Larry Cauble, was sent out to Espiritu Santos as a replacement pilot in late 1943. All his VF flight time and his carrier quals were in F4Fs. When he got to COMFAIRSOWESTPAC, he quickly checked out in the F6F (Jan 1944) and he was assigned to VF-5 on the Yorktown as a replacement pilot. Here's a bit of what he had to say:

"After a short familiarization with the squadron my first combat flight was attacking airfields on the island of Peleleiu on the 30th of March 1944 and on the airfeld at Palau the next day. On my first combat flight, I was so nervous and keyed up that I didn't see a lot of what was going on including where my own .50 cal guns were hitting. The thing to note is that I'm writing this in the year 2000, 56 years later, and although there are some events that are very clear, many have faded with time.

"One of those events that is as clear today as years ago was the strafing and sinking of a small freighter five miles off the coast. As we circled back around after the sinking, we saw there were life boats in the water with soldiers in uniform. We knew they were shipping replacement ground troops down from Japan, so we attacked the life boats. Fifty caliber machine guns really tear up wood life boats and human bodies. With my section leader and me, we were firing twelve .50 cal guns. Pieces of life boat and bodies were flying everywhere. What we didn't know until we started firing was that not only were there soldiers in combat uniforms but there were also women in the life boats and the strafing didn't discriminate by gender. Although it was an unpleasant and graphic sight, I would not do the mission differently either then or now. I still to this day wonder why there were women in a active combat area. Perhaps the Japanese weren't facing the prospect that the US forces could get that close to the home islands."

He went on to participate in the strikes on Hollandia and Truk and then Air Group Five was pulled off the line to be replaced by Air Group One. Since he had only had a limited time in combat, he persuaded the skipper to let him transfer to the RAG in Hawaii (VF-100 at Barbers Pt) with the hope of going back out again as a replacement pilot. He ended up going back to the Yorktown as a replacement pilot in VF-1 on 23 June 1944. But he reported just as VF-1 in turn was pulled off the line -- in fact from his log books, he never flew a single flight as a VF-1 pilot -- so finagled his way back once again to the RAG in Hawaii. he was assigned as a replacement pilot -- this time to VF-19 where he saw a bit more action.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:47 pm

Hard Core. 8)

ENS Larry Cauble is my kind of go-getter. There's a strong will and some strong wisdom in those words. Let him know his service is very much respected, and thanks for sharing his story!

Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:45 pm

Panthers eat Hellcats :drink3:
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